What if Invasor and Bernardini split?

[boswd]

Originally Posted by Danzig2

and i'm not sure why so many think it's between invasor and bernardini, with lava man sitting alone at the top of the polls. one of them will come out of the jcgc a loser, pretty much guaranteeing no shot at hoy--not if one of the other two wins the bcc! if one of the two wins both, he's hoy. if all three fail in the bcc...well, now, it'll get mighty interesting!!!

Actually Both Bernardini and Invasor are ranked higher.
http://www.ntra.com/bc_wtc_ranking.aspx

The Classic Division is leaving me with more questions than answers. I would hope some more American horses get their names posted in top ten polls some time soon. I am hoping that Good Reward, Perfect Drift, and Suave show up soon. Lawyer Ron could show up soon, as well.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by boswd

Actually Both Bernardini and Invasor are ranked higher.
http://www.ntra.com/bc_wtc_ranking.aspx

well, funny, this is from ntra as well:



NTRAU



Week 27 of the 2006 NTRA Thoroughbred Poll conducted by the National Thoroughbred Racing Association (NTRA), covering racing performances through September 10. Current Horse of the Year ranking of the top Thoroughbreds as voted by horseracing media representatives on a 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 basis with first-place votes in parentheses, 2006 record and total points. A-S: Age-Sex, Sex: C-colt, G-gelding, H-horse, F-filly, M-mare.
HORSE AGE-SEX RECORD POINTS PVS PROBABLE NEXT
1. Lava Man (11) 5-G 6-6-0-0 154 1 9/30 Clement L. Hirsch Turf Championship
2. Bernardini (4) 3-C 6-5-0-0 146 2 10/7 Jockey Club Gold Cup
3. Invasor (1) 4-C 4-3-0-0 127 3 10/7 Jockey Club Gold Cup
4. Silver Train 4-C 4-2-1-0 71 4 10/7 Vosburgh Stakes
5. Aragorn 4-C 5-3-2-0 61 5 10/7 Oak Tree Breeders' Cup Mile
6. Gorella 4-F 4-3-0-0 50 6 10/14 First Lady Stakes
7. Barbaro 3-C 5-4-0-0 43 9 Retired
8. Henny Hughes 3-C 2-2-0-0 35 7 10/7 Vosburgh Stakes
9. The Tin Man 8-G 4-3-1-0 33 8 9/30 Clement L. Hirsch Turf Championship
10. Fleet Indian 5-M 5-5-0-0 32 - Undecided

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

As we all know in this game, just because a horse beats another horse once doesn't mean the results will be the same the next time they square off. Outside of the Lava Man fans everyone almost seems to have accepted that whoever wins the JCGC between Invasor and Bernardini will also win the Classic. What happens if they split the two races and Lava Man is off the board in the Classic? Who is your HOY? Whoever wins the Classic by default? Or would you factor in the trip in both races to see who had a more valid excuse for their loss?

Invasor has as much chance of beating Bernardini as I have of beating Tiger Woods in an 18 hole match.

[Gander]

I agree with your opinion Rupert but I'd be more inclined to take Invasor over Bernardini before I took you to be anywhere close to Tiger. LOL!

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Gander

I agree with your opinion Rupert but I'd be more inclined to take Invasor over Bernardini before I took you to be anywhere close to Tiger. LOL!

I don't know. I was a 3 handicap at one time. If it was at my home course and I had a great day and he had an off day, it would be possible. It would be extremely unlikely but possible. I remember when Lanny Wadkins was in his prime back in the early 1980s and he came out to my course. He was playing with some friends of mine and he was a few holes ahead of me. They only played 9 holes and I asked them what Lanny shot. I was surprised that he shot 39. That was the same score that I shot that day.

In all seriousness though, my chances of beating Tiger in an 18 hole match, even at my home course would be 1 in 1000 at best. Invasor's chances of beating Bernardini are probably 1 in 10. I wouldn't lay 1 to 10 because I hate laying big odds, but I wouldn't give Invasor much chance against Bernardini.

[Gander]

At my very best I was in between a 3 and 4 handicap from the blues at a course that was cery challenging, so I can relate to your ability. I could hit the ball 280 yards straight as an arrow almost every time and I had a pretty nifty draw that came in handy at most courses. There were guys I played against at the time that were 1 handicaps and even with a bunch of off days mixed in, they would be beat me 80 of 100 times.

Trust me, you would need more than you playing your very best and Tiger having an off day. LOL!

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Gander

At my very best I was in between a 3 and 4 handicap from the blues at a course that was cery challenging, so I can relate to your ability. I could hit the ball 280 yards straight as an arrow almost every time and I had a pretty nifty draw that came in handy at most courses. There were guys I played against at the time that were 1 handicaps and even with a bunch off days mixed in, they would be beat me 80 of 100 times.

Trust me, you would need more than you playing your very best and Tiger having an off day. LOL!

What about the choke factor? Tiger might be intimidated by me. When he sees me rip it 250 yards right down the middle, he'd be shaking in his boots.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

In all seriousness though, my chances of beating Tiger in an 18 hole match, even at my home course would be 1 in 1000 at best. Invasor's chances of beating Bernardini are probably 1 in 10. I wouldn't lay 1 to 10 because I hate laying big odds, but I wouldn't give Invasor much chance against Bernardini.

Oops, I hadn't gotten to this post when I posted the one above.

I'd be surprised if you have to lay more than 3-1 in the JCGC, though.

--Dunbar

[ArlJim78]

I've said it before and i'll say it again, I think Invasor will beat Bernardini.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Invasor has as much chance of beating Bernardini as I have of beating Tiger Woods in an 18 hole match.

Care to give me 10-1 in a matchup? I'd give you 100-1 on beating Tiger.

--Dunbar