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Old 05-02-2009, 06:01 PM
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Just curious what does everyone think of Pioneer of the Nile's performance today? Was it enough to end the synth/dirt debate?
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:02 PM
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Just curious what does everyone think of Pioneer of the Nile's performance today? Was it enough to end the synth/dirt debate?
It's different for every horse, just because PotN does well doesn't mean the same rule applies for every horse.
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:03 PM
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Just curious what does everyone think of Pioneer of the Nile's performance today? Was it enough to end the synth/dirt debate?
Not sure, I have to watch the race again. But I though he was pretty much in the clear the whole race. Meaning he handled the track, but I'm not sure if he had to or would have handled all the mud in his face. He did run well, but he was still beaten by over 6 lengths to a horse off the New Mexico circuit. So my answer is yes and no.
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Old 05-02-2009, 05:50 PM
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I've never benn more puzzled with the winner of a race then I am today. He just relished a track that 18 other horses happened to just despise I guess. No clue what the heck just happened.
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Old 05-02-2009, 05:46 PM
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rail bias does not help you win it in a cantor.
Street Sense and Round Pond beg to differ.
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Old 05-02-2009, 05:50 PM
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Street Sense and Round Pond beg to differ.
dude, that horse could have chosen the 10 path and won by daylight, he was moving twice the rate of the rest of the field, the rail had zero to do with the win.
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Old 05-02-2009, 05:55 PM
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Join the Dance really had an impact on this derby, he was suppose to set it up for Dunkirk instead he set it up for Mine that Bird.

Pioneer Of The Nile ran a very good race, he was close to the pace and was never close to the rail today, coupled with his ride on Zambezi Sun not one of Gomez's best performances today.

Jon White can sleep a little easier tonight.
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Hard to see the Sunland Derby not getting Grade III status next year now. That will throw the preps of some horses for a loop.
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:44 PM
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Hard to see the Sunland Derby not getting Grade III status next year now. That will throw the preps of some horses for a loop.

I guess between Peppers Pride and Mine that Bird, New Mexico racing might get a little more respect, eh?

Seriously, it is pretty cool that the often dissed here New Mexico's Peppers Pride leaves the all time unbeaten mark at 19 within five months of another New Mexico racing connection winning the Kentucky Derby....easily.

Like it or not, it happened.
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Hold Me Back's backstretch move was a Derby winning move... a few furlongs early.
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I thought for sure Papa Clem was going to win at the top of the stretch.
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Hold Me Back's backstretch move was a Derby winning move... a few furlongs early.
Isn't that what he did in the Remsen?
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I guess between Peppers Pride and Mine that Bird, New Mexico racing might get a little more respect, eh?

Seriously, it is pretty cool that the often dissed here New Mexico's Peppers Pride leaves the all time unbeaten mark at 19 within five months of another New Mexico racing connection winning the Kentucky Derby....easily.

Like it or not, it happened.
I puked....a lot.
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Seriously, it is pretty cool that the often dissed here New Mexico's Peppers Pride leaves the all time unbeaten mark at 19 within five months of another New Mexico racing connection winning the Kentucky Derby....easily.

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The all time unbeaten mark is at least 54, the number of races won by the Hungarian wonderhorse Kincsem. And she was winning Derbies and races that are today European G1s. "All time" includes all of Thoroughbred racing history, not just the last 50 years.
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:30 PM
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The all time unbeaten mark is at least 54, the number of races won by the Hungarian wonderhorse Kincsem. And she was winning Derbies and races that are today European G1s. "All time" includes all of Thoroughbred racing history, not just the last 50 years.

Hungarian? Pfft.

That's (Ga)bor-ing.

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