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Old 12-07-2007, 06:27 PM
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I saw this response earlier today, but this question just came to mind:

If a Courier-Journal or Herald-Leader reporter asked you for your opinion on this instance, and you knew that you were going to be quoted for attribution, would you have said "Get over it?"
Why are you so obsessed with what I say? Do you want me to call them and give them a quote? I will. At least I will state my true opinion on subjects unlike most in this industry. My opinion is that this was a malfunction. Simple. Get over it. If someone comes up with some information that this was done for an advantage or is happening more than once in a blue moon then I will say that there is a serious problem. There are many people here who feel that it is not an isolated incident. Fine that is thier opinion. If someone shows me something that backs that opinion up I will admit I underestimated the problem.

I would say that there are many more fixed races in this country than there are races with past posts. Think about that for a minute. Now there is a real problem.
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Old 12-07-2007, 06:39 PM
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I would say that there are many more fixed races in this country than there are races with past posts. Think about that for a minute. Now there is a real problem.

At least we know you're uninvolved.
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:29 PM
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Why are you so obsessed with what I say? Do you want me to call them and give them a quote? I will. At least I will state my true opinion on subjects unlike most in this industry. My opinion is that this was a malfunction. Simple. Get over it. If someone comes up with some information that this was done for an advantage or is happening more than once in a blue moon then I will say that there is a serious problem. There are many people here who feel that it is not an isolated incident. Fine that is thier opinion. If someone shows me something that backs that opinion up I will admit I underestimated the problem.

I would say that there are many more fixed races in this country than there are races with past posts. Think about that for a minute. Now there is a real problem.
Chuck I worked as a Teller for several months back a couple years ago. I speak regulary with many Tellers at my home track and have for years. If anyone should know about whether this is a problem or not it is a Teller at Beulah Park cause we have a large group of "gamblers" who play odds and numbers with 1 minute to post or less. They are shut out all the time.

Look, I sit at the same table when I am at the track which is right next to 2 Tellers who take a lot of action from the aforementioned players and in clear view of a dozen or more tv's. I don't see it as a crisis but rather an isolated incident that needs looked into.
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:45 AM
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Why are you so obsessed with what I say? Do you want me to call them and give them a quote? I will. At least I will state my true opinion on subjects unlike most in this industry. My opinion is that this was a malfunction. Simple. Get over it. If someone comes up with some information that this was done for an advantage or is happening more than once in a blue moon then I will say that there is a serious problem. There are many people here who feel that it is not an isolated incident. Fine that is thier opinion. If someone shows me something that backs that opinion up I will admit I underestimated the problem.

I would say that there are many more fixed races in this country than there are races with past posts. Think about that for a minute. Now there is a real problem.
Perhaps he's obsessed with Hacker Craft? Alas, HC probably wouldn't respond.
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:57 PM
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Obsessed? Surely you don't believe that, or don't know the meaning of obsessed.

Had your "Get over it" appeared in a widely distributed medium, as opposed to a chat room, I doubt that horseplayers would have been thrilled, to say the least, with reading it. Clearly, I'm not the only one here who objected to your take on this issue, though I happen to agree with many of your points. I objected to one part of what you wrote.
Call it whatever you want. And if horseplayers are pissed so be it. It is my view on this one particular race.

If you can find a horseman that speaks up in support of horseplayers more than me, I would like to meet them.
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Old 12-07-2007, 04:23 AM
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That's nonsense Chuck. It shouldn't be able to ever happen. And, the likelihood that if it happened this time that it doesn't happen other times is zero. Plus, perception is that it does happen, and that matters a great deal.

If they need to close the pools when the first horse is loaded then they should. People will learn to adjust. Any situation where the machines are open after the start is completely unacceptable.
If this was the stock market, they'd be in fear of class action lawsuits when this kind of thing happend. Which would deter it. Please I'm hardly a fan of lawyers and lawsuits but they do deter stuff like this from happening. Unfortunately in parimutual racing, the victims are too splintered and most couldn't provide proof (losing tix) that they were injured.
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