1/25 (GP): Pegasus ~ UPDATE: Omaha Beach out..

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The guy is a polarizing figure, a jerk that pisses a community off and a guy who does wonderful things for the community. Who the heck would want to go to Saudi other than a trainer looking for a huge payday or guy who is still pissed his 16 claimer didn't win the derby

I don’t think it’s Servis looking for a big payday but maybe

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The guy is a polarizing figure, a jerk that pisses a community off and a guy who does wonderful things for the community. Who the heck would want to go to Saudi other than a trainer looking for a huge payday or guy who is still pissed his 16 claimer didn't win the derby

Isn't it reasonable to guess that Coolmore, who just bought in, is playing a role in him going to the Saudi race?

It didn't sound like a breeding only deal, more like they bought a half interest, but I could be wrong.

As for West....polarizing jerk? I've never heard him described as a jerk. For that matter, polarizing either. What do you know that I don't? I don't know him at all.

[SchexNola]

Invited last year and runs and this year he wins the G1 Clark and doesn't get an invite....Explain that one.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Kind of easy to be charitable when you’re a billionaire, no? Not that it has anything to do with my post.

They’ve been VERY careful with him since the Derby, protecting him, running him in spots where he can’t lose (but did.)

I guess the fan in me would rather see them take on a legitimate contender than run in Saudi Arabia against no one, but I’m crazy that way.

Well, when I asked the question before “do fans deserve any consideration?”, you answered no. So why go questioning the motives of owners here?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Well, when I asked the question before “do fans deserve any consideration?”, you answered no. So why go questioning the motives of owners here?

Dahoss doesn't need me to defend him, but you are twisting his comments. When did he demand they should run him somewhere because the "fan" in him wishes they would? He never denied fans have a right to wish for things.

But you knew all that.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Dahoss doesn't need me to defend him, but you are twisting his comments. When did he demand they should run him somewhere because the "fan" in him wishes they would? He never denied fans have a right to wish for things.

But you knew all that.

When did I demand it? I don’t have the right to demand it. I only said what I wished for and what I thought would be best for the sport from a fan’s perspective. I don’t see the difference here.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Well, when I asked the question before “do fans deserve any consideration?”, you answered no. So why go questioning the motives of owners here?

We’re talking about two different things.

Your desire for Bricks and Mortar to run in the Classic (on a surface he’d never run on and a surface his trainer didn’t think he could stand up on) and my opinion that the West’s/Servis are protecting Maximum Security by avoiding real competition on a track he’s 3 for 3 on are very different things.

It’s like the Zenyatta thing we discussed in that thread. I think the Moss’s did the sport a disservice protecting Zenyatta like they did but at the end of the day hard to argue with the results. IMO Maximum Security is being coddled, but it’s worked so far.

[King Glorious]

I get what you’re saying but I think it’s closer to the same argument than you think it is. I understood that the more logical (much more) decision was for Bricks and Mortar to run in the Turf. That was not in question. I wanted to see a challenge and something special. But I knew what made sense from a business perspective. Just as I understand why the owners of Maximum Security would chose a $20 million purse over a $3 million one. Your desire is definitely more logical though.

[Kasept]

$3 million PEGASUS WORLD CUP

To be run Saturday as race 12 of 12
Post time: 5:45 p.m. Eastern
TV: NBC (4:30-6)
For 4-year-olds and up at 1 1/8 miles

(PP, Horse, Jockey, GP M/L)

1. TRUE TIMBER, J.Bravo, 20-1
2. TAX, J.Ortiz, 12-1
3. DIAMOND OOPS, J.Leparoux, 20-1
4. SEEKING THE SOUL, J.Velazquez, 30-1
5. OMAHA BEACH, M.Smith, 7-5
6. HIGHER POWER, F.Prat, 6-1
7. WAR STORY, J.Rosario, 30-1
8. MR FREEZE, L.Saez, 30-1
9. SPUN TO RUN, J.Castellano, 7-2
10. MUCHO GUSTO, I.OrtizJr., 9-2
11. TENFOLD, T.Gaffalione, 30-1
12. BODEXPRESS, E.Jaramillo, 30-1

******************************

$1 million PEGASUS WORLD CUP TURF

Race 11 of 12
Post time, 5:15
For 4-year-olds and up at 1 3/16 miles (turf)

(PP, Horse, Jockey, GP M/L)

1. ZULU ALPHA, T.Gaffalione, 12-1
2. ARKLOW, L.Saez, 6-1
3. WITHOUT PAROLE, F.Dettori, 4-1
4. SADLER’S JOY, J.Castellano, 8-1
5. CHANNEL CAT, J.Velazquez, 10-1
6. INSTILLED REGARD, I.OrtizJr., 10-1
7. ADMISSION OFFICE, F.Prat, 30-1
8. HENLEY’S JOY, J.Leparoux, 30-1
9. NEXT SHARES, J.ValdiviaJr., 30-1
10. MO FORZA, J.Rosario, 5-1
11. SACRED LIFE, J.Ortiz, 12-1
12. MAGIC WAND, R.Moore, 7-2
13 (AE). TUSK, no rider, 30-1