Lukas down to 40 horses

[ELA]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm not sure I would agree with that. Overall it seems that Pletcher is beloved on message boards and his defenders well outnumber his detracters. Do you honestly disagree with that?

Maybe I'm wrong.

I would agree with you. I think there is a very different dynamic as to the fanfare, popularity, etc., but again, I would agree with you.

Eric

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm not sure I would agree with that. Overall it seems that Pletcher is beloved on message boards and his defenders well outnumber his detracters. Do you honestly disagree with that?

Maybe I'm wrong.

just seems to me that pletcher catches a lot of grief over not having yet won a classic, and days such as his 0-17 in the bcc this year. also see a lot of posts suggesting he isn't totally above board in his training tactics from many. he's achieved a lot of success in a relatively short time, and i feel that will continue in the years to come--and that the amount of detractors will rise with the purse money!! seems everyone enjoys a success--until that guy gets 'too' successful.
look at jerry bailey--he got a ton of grief the last few years, and everyone speculated who would take his place due to his retirement. note who's #1 in the standings, and #1 in the amount of threads started on this board (one example) bashing mr gomez's every awkward move.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

i'm telling you dahoss, rupe and i have been on opposite sides of this discussion numerous times. nowadays most times i just leave it. he knows what i want, and i know he has failed to produce....

dwl was/is reviled for being so successful. it's drifted away from him for the most part, now many gleefully attack his former pupil, todd pletcher. he's the top dog now, so it's his turn.

pletcher follows in his teachers footsteps nicely and im not referring to the winning which luka$$ hasnt done much of the last 5-6 years for the kinda stock hes had to be well under 20%. im well aware of the farm pletchers relative has where all the cripples are at, he dont give a shiat either just like his former boss

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

pletcher follows in his teachers footsteps nicely and im not referring to the winning which luka$$ hasnt done much of the last 5-6 years for the kinda stock hes had to be well under 20%. im well aware of the farm pletchers relative has where all the cripples are at, he dont give a shiat either just like his former boss

I was right on the rail about 100 yards from the finish line at the 2006 BC. Pletcher walked right passed me on his way down to see Fleet Indian when she was injured. Pletcher's face was stone cold blank. Simply no emotion at all. The pace of his walk didnt increase, he just calmly walked down to where she was and back. That was all.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by ELA

So, I guess this means, simply put, that we are not going to see any proof, data, or any back up whatsoever to your claims, or anything factual for that matter.

I would think -- once again, simply put -- because you don't have it.

Eric

Well, I guess that Strawberry never had a drug problem if you can't tell me how many times he's been arrested for drugs.

If you don't want to belive what I'm telling you about Lukas, then don't believe it. But if you ask anyone else in the business, they will tell you the same thing as I'm telling you.