Derby Trail/Triple Crown Notebook

[Rudeboyelvis]

Bayern to the Ark Derby
Hoppetunity to the SA Derby
per Steve Andersen - DRF

Rosario will ride Tapiture in the Ark Derby, abandons Strong Mandate
per Jay Privman - DRF

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Tonalist NO go for Wood.. Possible lung infection.

Too bad, as I thought he might be an interesting player in the Wood.
Not sure how long it will take to clear up the lung infection (he's nominated to the Bluegrass too), but it never felt like these connections had Derby fever with Tonalist anyway.
Probably not a bad idea to continue taking their time with him.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Kasept

4/5/14 Wood Memorial 1 1/8M - AQU:

Samraat (Violette)
Uncle Sigh (Contessa)
In Trouble (T. Dutrow)
Honor Code (McGaughey)
Commissioner (Pletcher)
Noble Moon (Gyarmati)
Kid Cruz (Rice)
Social Inclusion (M. Azpurua)

I've read in a few places that Clement is pointing Tonalist to the Wood, if he continues to train well up to the race.

[letswastemoney]

Shouldn't Edison and Gala Award be pointing towards dirt races? Bernardini is a dirt sire! I wonder how good they'd both be.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Shouldn't Edison and Gala Award be pointing towards dirt races? Bernardini is a dirt sire! I wonder how good they'd both be.

I would not call Bernardini a dirt sire, so far he has been a major disapointment. And Pletcher is pretty sharp, Im guessing if either could dirt they would have already run over the surface.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I would not call Bernardini a dirt sire, so far he has been a major disapointment. And Pletcher is pretty sharp, Im guessing if either could dirt they would have already run over the surface.

And I would have to disagree, as Bernardini is very much a dirt sire in my book. Connections make mistakes all the time. Cigar biggest example. Imperative is a recent example of a better dirt horse sired by Bernardini.

[letswastemoney]

But, I'm not saying Bernardinis are good overall, only that they're better on dirt and excellent on wet dirt.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I would not call Bernardini a dirt sire, so far he has been a major disapointment. And Pletcher is pretty sharp, Im guessing if either could dirt they would have already run over the surface.

I'm not sure what you would call him then.

Bernardini Dirt stats.
1071 starts from 198 different horses 17% Winners 44% ITM 28 stakes wins.
236 starts on an off track 21% winners.

Bernardini's turf stats
361 starts from 128 different horses. 7% winners 28% ITM 2 stakes wins.
Around 3-4% first time turf.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

I'm not sure what you would call him then.

Bernardini Dirt stats.
1071 starts from 198 different horses 17% Winners 44% ITM 28 stakes wins.
236 starts on an off track 21% winners.

Bernardini's turf stats
361 starts from 128 different horses. 7% winners 28% ITM 2 stakes wins.
Around 3-4% first time turf.

I would call him a giant bust as a sire.

[Kasept]

Meanwhile, poor Bond Holder now in a FL clinic with laminitis...

[tanner12oz]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Meanwhile, poor Bond Holder now in a FL clinic with laminitis...

jeez give this horse a break...its been one thing after another for this poor guy...

[FATPIANO]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Meanwhile, poor Bond Holder now in a FL clinic with laminitis...

HORRIBLE just HORRIBLE

[tanner12oz]

Mexicoma off trail pointing to the Peter pan followed by Belmont stakes

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by tanner12oz

Mexicoma off trail pointing to the Peter pan followed by Belmont stakes

So, Mexicoma won't be ready for the Derby in 6 weeks but will be ready for the Peter Pan in 7?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by OldDog

So, Mexicoma won't be ready for the Derby in 6 weeks but will be ready for the Peter Pan in 7?

Mexikoma had no qualifying points for the Derby, so he'd need to be ready for a prep and obviously will not.

[Kasept]

3/29/14 Florida Derby 1 1/8M - GP:

Cairo Prince (McLaughlin)
Wildcat Red (Garoffalo)
General a Rod (Maker)
Constitution (Pletcher)
Matador (Casse)
Spot (Zito)


3/29/14 Louisiana Derby 1 1/8M - FG:

Intense Holiday (Pletcher)
Albano (L. Jones)
Vicar's in Trouble (Maker)
Gold Hawk (Asmussen)
Quick Indian (M. Scherer)
Commanding Curve (Stewart)
Louies Flower (Calhoun)
In Trouble (Dutrow)


3/29/14 UAE Derby 1 3/16M (S) - MEY:

Asmar (Nass)
Cooptado (Watson)
Emirates Flyer (bin Suroor)
Paximadia (bin Suroor)
Figure of Speech (Appleby)
Long John (Appleby)
Safety Check (Appleby)
Giovanni Boldini (O’Brien)
Sir John Hawkins (O’Brien)
Jallota (de Kock)
King Rubi (Palussiere)
Sir Jack Layden (Brown)
Toast of New York (Osborne)

[booner]

Heard yesterday that the connections of Harry's Holiday were going to pony up the $6k late nomination fee to get him into the Derby. Did they make the deadline?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by booner

Heard yesterday that the connections of Harry's Holiday were going to pony up the $6k late nomination fee to get him into the Derby. Did they make the deadline?

Undoubtedly.. Time stands still when it comes to those late noms.

[pmayjr]

question-
I was at work, so didn't watch any race on the card except for the replay of the Spiral. Was the track speed-favoring yesterday?

Nobody closed in the Spiral. I mean Artie and Asserting Bear kinda did, but they were close-up... Just wondering if the kickback ate up the closers or? I get as far as horse's potential on dirt there wasn't much in this field, but so many in here were eligible to move up on synth and it just seemed like "first to the front, wins" (Solitary Ranger the exception).

Just wondering if the connections of a lot of these may draw a line through the race and try again in 3 weeks either in the Bluegrass? Poker Player was originally pointed there anyway?

[tanner12oz]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

question-
I was at work, so didn't watch any race on the card except for the replay of the Spiral. Was the track speed-favoring yesterday?

Nobody closed in the Spiral. I mean Artie and Asserting Bear kinda did, but they were close-up... Just wondering if the kickback ate up the closers or? I get as far as horse's potential on dirt there wasn't much in this field, but so many in here were eligible to move up on synth and it just seemed like "first to the front, wins" (Solitary Ranger the exception).

Just wondering if the connections of a lot of these may draw a line through the race and try again in 3 weeks either in the Bluegrass? Poker Player was originally pointed there anyway?

the track appeared fair to me