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Old 03-06-2008, 01:58 PM
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He hasn't had much at all, to be honest. Think Minardi might be his best.
Wasn't Pomeroy a Boundary?
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Old 03-06-2008, 02:00 PM
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I'll answer her question. It's not as much fun as giving her a hard time is but really, the question is not a hard one. She just asked simply who do you think will be a better horse, War Pass or Big Brown?

I go with War Pass. Really, it wasn't a ridiculous question as most are making it out to be.
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Old 03-06-2008, 02:04 PM
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Wasn't Pomeroy a Boundary?
Yeah, nice call... I should have known that. I liked that one a lot, probably his best US runner.
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Old 03-06-2008, 02:08 PM
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Yeah, nice call... I should have known that. I liked that one a lot, probably his best US runner.
It's very possible this colt hits the frickin wall at a mile.. IMO more so then WP cant get 10f's..

Nothing wrong with an awesome miler Rosie...You maybe right about the horse and wrong about the course and distance...Maybe he is Lure 2?
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Old 03-06-2008, 02:10 PM
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It's very possible this colt hits the frickin wall at a mile.. IMO more so then WP cant get 10f's..

Nothing wrong with an awesome miler Rosie...You maybe right about the horse and wrong about the course and distance...Maybe he is Lure 2?
Nah, he actually ACCELERATED after setting a pretty wicked pace going a mile and a sixteenth in his debut. I could certainly be wrong but he's finished with energy both times...
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Old 03-06-2008, 03:37 PM
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Nah, he actually ACCELERATED after setting a pretty wicked pace going a mile and a sixteenth in his debut. I could certainly be wrong but he's finished with energy both times...
Phil..excellent post..Really enjoying the dialogue between you and Freddy

thought I would get this thread back on it's feet again
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Old 03-06-2008, 03:45 PM
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Nah, he actually ACCELERATED after setting a pretty wicked pace going a mile and a sixteenth in his debut. I could certainly be wrong but he's finished with energy both times...
Here's a comparison, by splits, to the Weekend Madness (R7), run the same day and won by Classic Neel.

Big Brown R5: 23.19 24.35 24.30 22.62 5.87

R7: 23.28 21.98 23.92 24.37 6.53

While he dropped the field when he accelerated, it's interesting that he didn't completely wipe them out, and some actually came back a bit (relatively) the last 1/16th. Of course, the maiden field was probably better than that he faced yesterday. But I think he was more impressive yesterday.
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from this point till he gets beat he wont see the turf imo
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Old 03-06-2008, 04:23 PM
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from this point till he gets beat he wont see the turf imo
Not just gets beat, but runs poorly
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Old 03-06-2008, 04:26 PM
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Not just gets beat, but runs poorly
you and i and ateam were on em in the maiden breaker..
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Old 03-06-2008, 04:30 PM
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you and i and ateam were on em in the maiden breaker..
My last winner....

you have a crazy memory, that was like 7 months ago and you remember a post from back then....
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Old 03-06-2008, 04:46 PM
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Default Big Brown to the florida derby
as per IEAH...they said they want to give him more spacing to the KD than the BG would provide.
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Old 03-06-2008, 04:48 PM
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Old 03-06-2008, 06:31 PM
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It seems that they have changed gears and are now going to the Florida Derby. Dutrow offered the following quote to DRF......


"We got to thinkin' and drinkin' last night, and, by the time we were done, we decided the Florida Derby would be the best option," said Dutrow, who trains Big Brown for the IEAH Stables and Paul Pompa Jr.


After reading that I don't know why I don't have complete confidence in this horse moving forward.
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Old 03-06-2008, 06:36 PM
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It seems that they have changed gears and are now going to the Florida Derby. Dutrow offered the following quote to DRF......


"We got to thinkin' and drinkin' last night, and, by the time we were done, we decided the Florida Derby would be the best option," said Dutrow, who trains Big Brown for the IEAH Stables and Paul Pompa Jr.


After reading that I don't know why I don't have complete confidence in this horse moving forward.
by the time they were done thinking, or by the time they were done drinking??
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:08 PM
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You guys are talking about TWO DIFFERENT HORSES. The top is referencing GIANT MOON, not BIG BROWN.

Easy Goer, wouldn't you take the time to know that? C'mon, you're better than that.
Sweet Tapdancingjeezus, I am out of my mind, I got too many threads open at once. ...
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:12 PM
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It seems that they have changed gears and are now going to the Florida Derby. Dutrow offered the following quote to DRF......


"We got to thinkin' and drinkin' last night, and, by the time we were done, we decided the Florida Derby would be the best option," said Dutrow, who trains Big Brown for the IEAH Stables and Paul Pompa Jr.


After reading that I don't know why I don't have complete confidence in this horse moving forward.
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:37 PM
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No, it's only if they race each other.

It isn't who has been better so far. It is who is the more talented horse. When they meet up, who will win. What handicapper doesn't have to make decisions like this all the time?
How are you so certain that either one of them will win if they meet up? Doesn't a lot of that depend on what other horses are entered in the race and their running styles? Perhaps Big Brown and War Pass will burn themselves out, who knows. Furthermore, how can you handicap a race without having all of the information on the race itself?
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:39 PM
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How are you so certain that either one of them will win if they meet up? Doesn't a lot of that depend on what other horses are entered in the race and their running styles? Perhaps Big Brown and War Pass will burn themselves out, who knows. Furthermore, how can you handicap a race without having all of the information on the race itself?
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:50 PM
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you and i and ateam were on em in the maiden breaker..
So was Sightseek and Kelly. Martin and I had put together a big pick 6 ticket and we only included him on a backup ticket because Ateam talked us into him. I think we busted on the next leg.
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