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Old 12-03-2006, 02:46 PM
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Zieg and Coach and whoever, just answer me this one question honestly ok?
Lets say their is a national contest/lottery. Mr and Mrs Zeig and Mr and Mrs Coach get pulled out of the drawing.
You just won a 100,000 bet on a game between Michigan and Florida.
Which team are you gonna put your 100 grand on?
you don't seem to comprehend Vegas doesn't control college football
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Old 12-03-2006, 03:13 PM
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you don't seem to comprehend Vegas doesn't control college football
So are you saying that Florida is a better team than Michigan right here?
And how much will you be wagering on them against Ohio St?
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Old 12-03-2006, 03:27 PM
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I'm pretty proud of Michigan for not campaigning, I think Urban looks like a 4 year old...here's some interesting stuff I would point out.

Over and over and over again they said that Florida had the toughest schedule based on opponent win percentage. A few times they said UM was #3, but the main focus was that UF had the #1 toughest schedule. They repeatedly noted that the criteria for that statement was opponent win percentage. BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE!!!

Michigan's opponents: 84-61 (0.5793)
Florida's opponents: 90-66 (0.5769)

The only way to make the numbers work the way ESPN presented them is if you take out Florida's game against a 2-9 IAA team (W. Carolina) from the calculations. But shouldn't playing a 2-9 IAA team reflect negatively on your schedule strength?

And they had one common opponent Vanderbilt.
UF won 25-19 and was outgained by Vandy 391-330
UM won 27-7 and outgained Vandy 381-171

Let Florida get their wish...I look forward to rooting for O$U
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Old 12-03-2006, 03:47 PM
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So are you saying that Florida is a better team than Michigan right here?
And how much will you be wagering on them against Ohio St?

yes FLA is better than Michigan
the AP and Coaches have just voted it as well
so I'm not way off in left field for thinking such a thing
if Michigan goes and wins, not only will the series with OSU be 1-1
but the AP will split the NC with FLA, provided they win their bowl game
the whole thing begs for a playoff~but provided the betting line
I'd be careful of betting on OSU in a game w/ Florida
Percy Harvin is just as explosive as Ginn, and will make those
big guys look like fools trying to tackle him, speed kills
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Old 12-03-2006, 03:56 PM
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yes FLA is better than Michigan
the AP and Coaches have just voted it as well
so I'm not way off in left field for thinking such a thing
if Michigan goes and wins, not only will the series with OSU be 1-1
but the AP will split the NC with FLA, provided they win their bowl game
the whole thing begs for a playoff~but provided the betting line
I'd be careful of betting on OSU in a game w/ Florida
Percy Harvin is just as explosive as Ginn, and will make those
big guys look like fools trying to tackle him, speed kills
ahh sweet southern speed can't be stopped. The "no rematch" defense is laughable since Florida's 97 title was, uh well over a Florida St. team that beat them earlier in the year. Florida and Michigan both deserve a shot, and the problem is the system.

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Old 12-03-2006, 04:13 PM
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ahh sweet southern speed can't be stopped. The "no rematch" defense is laughable since Florida's 97 title was, uh well over a Florida St. team that beat them earlier in the year. Florida and Michigan both deserve a shot, and the problem is the system.

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W 10-05-1996 42 Arkansas7 Fayetteville, AR
W 10-12-1996 56 Louisiana St. 13 Gainesville, FL
W 10-19-1996 51 Auburn (AL) 10 Gainesville, FL
W 11-02-1996 47 Georgia 7 Jacksonville, FL
W 11-09-1996 28 Vanderbilt (TN) 21 Nashville, TN
W 11-16-199652 South Carolina 25 Gainesville, FL
L 11-30-1996 21 Florida St. 24 Tallahassee, FL
W 12-07-1996 45 Alabama 30 SEC Championship Game
W 01-02-1997 52 Florida St.20 Sugar Bowl
but it was by 3 points on the road!
what the pro-rematchers are saying
and this was 10 years ago before the "BCS" was in place
just goes to show the new system hasn't made things any better/clearer
btw, I was not for this 1997 rematch either
if Boise State wins and Ohio State loses can we make them #1?
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Old 12-03-2006, 04:17 PM
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but it was by 3 points on the road!
what the pro-rematchers are saying
and this was 10 years ago before the "BCS" was in place
just goes to show the new system hasn't made things any better/clearer
btw, I was not for this 1997 rematch either
if Boise State wins and Ohio State loses can we make them #1?
Wasn't UM's loss 3 points on the road too? I'm not really arguing, I'm fine with Florida going but you're going to have to do better than that...LOL

They could have resolved this, they added the game and should have made it +1 system instead of what they did to appease the mid-majors...oh well.

On a lighter note, if UM and SC go to the Rose, at least their cheerleader's will be pulling for my squad.

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Old 12-03-2006, 04:28 PM
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Wasn't UM's loss 3 points on the road too? I'm not really arguing, I'm fine with Florida going but you're going to have to do better than that...LOL

They could have resolved this, they added the game and should have made it +1 system instead of what they did to appease the mid-majors...oh well.

On a lighter note, if UM and SC go to the Rose, at least their cheerleader's will be pulling for my squad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brcl8U0jHto&eurl=
that UF team did put up some nasty numbers
they had some receivers who could flat out fly
umm, no you missed my point~I don't want this rematch
and didn't want that one either, regardless of points lost by
it's just my main point is...UF and UM played hard schedules
both have one road loss, the difference is one is 1st in their
respected conference while the other 2nd
to say one conference is better than the other is subjective
at this point
what isn't is that OSU has beaten UM already
so let's have the SEC #1 face the Big Ten #1 for the NC
yeeee haaaaw! better git back to me moonshine, it is a Sunday
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