Police state reached

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Really? So police are just killing black men willy nilly nationwide? For no reason? Golly . . .

it's common knowledge that black men get treated much differently than others that the police encounter.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's common knowledge that black men get treated much differently than others that the police encounter.

I've heard a lot about "profiling" for the past 10-15 years, but not about "the very real and terrible pattern of police killings of African-American men." Is this pattern something about which someone can educate me?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I've heard a lot about "profiling" for the past 10-15 years, but not about "the very real and terrible pattern of police killings of African-American men." Is this pattern something about which someone can educate me?

no, i'm not going to bother. you can find all that out for yourself if you so wish. try google for a start. or write al jazeera, since they're the ones who used the line.

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...protestor.html

my gosh

[OldDog]

Might just be me, but if I found myself in a volatile place and time, and a person (any person) had a gun raised in my general direction, the last thing I would do is walk toward that person in a group and initiate a confrontation. But perhaps my sense of self preservation is stronger than some. As my Dad said, look for trouble and you'll likely find it.

By the way, al jazeera offers no statistics to back up the utterance of their opinion piece. If anything, there seems to be a lack of comprehensive data.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by OldDog

By the way, al jazeera offers no statistics to back up the utterance of their opinion piece. If anything, there seems to be a lack of comprehensive data.

How's Al Jazeera's coverage of the Foley beheading? Think there's any bias there?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by joeydb

How's Al Jazeera's coverage of the Foley beheading? Think there's any bias there?

We have had quite a few biased links posted on this board but I vote Al Jazerra as the leader in the club house on anything related to America.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Might just be me, but if I found myself in a volatile place and time, and a person (any person) had a gun raised in my general direction, the last thing I would do is walk toward that person in a group and initiate a confrontation. But perhaps my sense of self preservation is stronger than some. As my Dad said, look for trouble and you'll likely find it.

By the way, al jazeera offers no statistics to back up the utterance of their opinion piece. If anything, there seems to be a lack of comprehensive data.

i don't know that anyone will provide data for an 'opinion' piece.


'Darren Wilson "Nearly beaten unconscious" by Michael Brown before shooting'

the comments by the guy who was with brown and said 'the door kicked back' and that the cop 'tried to pull brown into his car' told me there was a physical confrontation between the two.

it's too bad there were no dash and cop cams.

what they have to try to figure out was if that shooting was justified. and even if the pope came and investigated, and said it was, there's going to be hell to pay from some in ferguson.

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...only_part.html

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I've heard a lot about "profiling" for the past 10-15 years, but not about "the very real and terrible pattern of police killings of African-American men." Is this pattern something about which someone can educate me?

There was a study done recently that an African American is shot dead by a member of law enforcement or person otherwise protected by the government every 28 hours. That's almost one a day.

But a white guy can go into a movie theater, kill a dozen, and be taken alive.

Here's one about a black man shot dead by police in Target for carrying a toy rifle sold by the store. In Ohio, which is an open carry state.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/poli...src=topstories

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

There was a study done recently that an African American is shot dead by a member of law enforcement or person otherwise protected by the government every 28 hours. That's almost one a day.

That's an astonishing fact.

I courious what the statistic would reflect in cities where neighborhoods comprised entirely of white people, almost all on some sort of welfare, where 74% of the gun related shootings are committed by white gang bangers would be - do you have those facts by any chance?

Oh wait...I see now.....so....if that doesn't exist, it would be logical to assume that....never mind... keep on keepin' on with this nonsense.

What's next? Are we going to get lectured on how it's all the white people's fault that there are bad neighborhoods comprised entirely of non-whites?

Keep banging this inane, self-loathing drum. It's ridiculous, especially when commented on from a perfectly safe and hypocritical distance. When did your family leave the 'ole neighborhood?

If you really want to make a difference instead of making up an excuse to blame "white people", why don't you move to the middle of Ferguson and set an example?

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Keep banging this inane, self-loathing drum. It's ridiculous, especially when commented on from a perfectly safe and hypocritical distance. When did your family leave the 'ole neighborhood?

If you really want to make a difference instead of making up an excuse to blame "white people", why don't you move to the middle of Ferguson and set an example?

Here's the 2010 Census breakdown of the racial demographics of my neighborhood:

White: 18%
Black: 49%
Hispanic: 17%
Asian: 10%
Other: 5%

But thanks for making a blind, erroneous assumption about me. You know, like the Ferguson PD does about the citizens they're supposed to be protecting and serving.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Here's the 2010 Census breakdown of the racial demographics of my neighborhood:

White: 18%
Black: 49%
Hispanic: 17%
Asian: 10%
Other: 5%

But thanks for making a blind, erroneous assumption about me. You know, like the Ferguson PD does about the citizens they're supposed to be protecting and serving.

Very good for you! You get to live in Utopia. I'd have to guess that you don't have much of a problem with crime, drugs, gangs, etc. either, and everyone is a responsible, upstanding citizen.

My Grandmother lived in a very, very similar neighborhood. 40 years ago.

About 10 years later (mid-80's), after everyone else had fled and her house had been broken into for the 3rd time in less than six months, she received a personal visit from the chief of police who told her to get the hell out before she was killed.

I'm sure that her stubbornness to not draw conclusions about her new neighbors based on their skin color was commendable by some, but not realistic.

So spare me this nonsense. Please. Put up or shut up. Move to a neighborhood that is 95%+ non-white and tell us again how unfair it is that everyone that gets arrested there is non-white. Or sit in your ivory tower and do it. It really makes no difference. It's appalling hypocritical regardless.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Very good for you! You get to live in Utopia. I'd have to guess that you don't have much of a problem with crime, drugs, gangs, etc. either, and everyone is a responsible, upstanding citizen.

My Grandmother lived in a very, very similar neighborhood. 40 years ago.

About 10 years later (mid-80's), after everyone else had fled and her house had been broken into for the 3rd time in less than six months, she received a personal visit from the chief of police who told her to get the hell out before she was killed.

I'm sure that her stubbornness to not draw conclusions about her new neighbors based on their skin color was commendable by some, but not realistic.

So spare me this nonsense. Please. Put up or shut up. Move to a neighborhood that is 95%+ non-white and tell us again how unfair it is that everyone that gets arrested there is non-white. Or sit in your ivory tower and do it. It really makes no difference. It's appalling hypocritical regardless.

One of the interesting things the Pew Foundation found out was that whites who live with black neighbors are much more likely to say that the police treat black Americans unfairly than whites who live in primarily white neighborhoods. Probably because we actually see it happen. I have.

Here's an excerpt from the report about execution of black citizens by police:

"5. Not Armed: Most of the people executed were not armed. The police and the corporate media often justify fatal shooting of “suspects” by loudly announcing that they were armed. Yet, it is legal to carry guns—even unregistered guns-- in most states. We have tabulated the number of people killed by police who were armed, not because we agree with the authorities that weapons’ possession is in-itself a criminal activity—especially on the part of young Black men. Rather, we present this data only to demonstrate how flimsy police justification often is.

136 (or 44% of 313) had no weapon at all at the time they were executed.

83 (or 27% of 313) allegedly possessed a gun. It has been demonstrated that police reports of gun possession frequently turn out to be false. Police are infamous for planting weapons or declaring that a cell phone, wallet or other harmless object is a gun. We, therefore, coded “armed status” as “alleged” if there was no corroboration that a suspect was indeed armed. Another 6
people or 2% were alleged to possess knives or other cutting tools.

62 (20% of the 313) Did, in fact, possess guns—and that total includes at least 3 toy or replica guns. Another 23 (7%) had verified knives or cutting implements.

It is also important to keep in mind that after reading through the details of 313 killings, only 42 of them (13%) involved a “suspect” definitely or allegedly shooting—which would make the gun possession illegal."

http://mxgm.org/operation-ghetto-sto...-black-people/