F-T FLORIDA: Hips to Watch

[outofthebox]

What's more intriguing than the buy back rate, is the amount of 2yo's that could not make the sale ring after the breeze show. This was certainly a case where only the strong survived. A friend of mine has to do surgery on two of his babies that were unable to sell...shame..track was souped up for sure...

[RockHardTen1985]

If I had to pick 1 of them it would be that Eskendereya, what a monster sire he is going to be.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

If I had to pick 1 of them it would be that Eskendereya, what a monster sire he is going to be.

Respectfully how they heck can you tell.

The leading stallions in US are Tapit, War Front, and Malibu Moon who in the world could have predicted any of these being as dominant commercially as they currently are. It's an FN crap shoot.

BTW for that Distorted Humor to be in a 2 year old sale let alone have been a 350k yearling purchase to me a huge red flag never mind he only sold for 7 figures which is hardily big money for that page. I would be shocked if that colt is a significant horse.

When people are RNAing 275k Harlan Holiday's with OK pages you know the top of the market is months away.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Respectfully how they heck can you tell.

The leading stallions in US are Tapit, War Front, and Malibu Moon who in the world could have predicted any of these being as dominant commercially as they currently are. It's an FN crap shoot.

BTW for that Distorted Humor to be in a 2 year old sale let alone have been a 350k yearling purchase to me a huge red flag never mind he only sold for 7 figures which is hardily big money for that page. I would be shocked if that colt is a significant horse.

When people are RNAing 275k Harlan Holiday's with OK pages you know the top of the market is months away.

He was the last super horse. I recall Chuck saying a Giants Causeway would never win a Grade 1 on dirt, then he destroyed the Wood with such ease. I think hes going to be a stud stallion.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Respectfully how they heck can you tell.

The leading stallions in US are Tapit, War Front, and Malibu Moon who in the world could have predicted any of these being as dominant commercially as they currently are. It's an FN crap shoot.

BTW for that Distorted Humor to be in a 2 year old sale let alone have been a 350k yearling purchase to me a huge red flag never mind he only sold for 7 figures which is hardily big money for that page. I would be shocked if that colt is a significant horse.

When people are RNAing 275k Harlan Holiday's with OK pages you know the top of the market is months away.

Also I think War Front being a good sire was pretty predictable.

[Indian Charlie]

Malibu Moon was a freakish runner.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Also I think War Front being a good sire was pretty predictable.

Maybe to you, but Claiborne didn't seem all that sure. He came to market with one GSW and was priced at $15k initially. As sons of Danzig go, Hard Spun had a much more distinguished career on track, is even better looking and well made than War Front, got better mares and wasn't effective. They NEVER know. You may, but the people spending the millions on them as stallions can't be.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Maybe to you, but Claiborne didn't seem all that sure. He came to market with one GSW and was priced at $15k initially. As sons of Danzig go, Hard Spun had a much more distinguished career on track, is even better looking and well made as War Front, got better mares and wasn't effective. They NEVER know. You may, but the people spending the millions on them as stallions can't be.

Hard Spun was clearly the better runner, but the dam's family of War Front was much stronger.

I thought that entire crop Hard Spun was in was overrated (though I did like Tiz Wonderful), especially as stallion prospects. There was some talk or belief back then that Turkoman was this fabulous sire of broodmares....

But yeah, I think War Front took everyone except for RHT by surprise.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Hard Spun was clearly the better runner, but the dam's family of War Front was much stronger.

I thought that entire crop Hard Spun was in was overrated (though I did like Tiz Wonderful), especially as stallion prospects. There was some talk or belief back then that Turkoman was this fabulous sire of broodmares....

But yeah, I think War Front took everyone except for RHT by surprise.

I liked his pedigree, and I always liked him as a runner. Thats all I really meant.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

What's more intriguing than the buy back rate, is the amount of 2yo's that could not make the sale ring after the breeze show. This was certainly a case where only the strong survived. A friend of mine has to do surgery on two of his babies that were unable to sell...shame..track was souped up for sure...

If they dont get more than a few scopes the consignors scratch them. They'd rather not attach a number to them so they just take them out. Will see many of these back at Timonium in May. Makes it hard for those w/o huge budget to find anything.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If they dont get more than a few scopes the consignors scratch them. They'd rather not attach a number to them so they just take them out. Will see many of these back at Timonium in May. Makes it hard for those w/o huge budget to find anything.

That makes sense. My friend wasn't to happy with a few breezes and not to much interest the following day so he pulled two out.