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Old 02-24-2014, 12:52 PM
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Well you did when you said that it was ridiculous to state the chartcallers opinion
Of that, yes, but not the charts as a whole. Sorry if it came across that way.
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Old 02-24-2014, 01:00 PM
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Of that, yes, but not the charts as a whole. Sorry if it came across that way.
So Chuck Streva's chart for that particular race is ridiculous to use as an example of an independent opinion of the race because you feel there is collusion between Stewards and chart callers regarding DQ's?

In other words if the horse hadn't come down Chuck would have worded the chart in a different manner?
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So Chuck Streva's chart for that particular race is ridiculous to use as an example of an independent opinion of the race because you feel there is collusion between Stewards and chart callers regarding DQ's?

In other words if the horse hadn't come down Chuck would have worded the chart in a different manner?
Again, you are just making **** up. I never said there was collusion. I'm just giving what I see. Why, AGAIN, I don't know. I don't think there is any plotting going on behind the scenes as you imply.

Had the horse not come down, I don't think we'd have gotten the same narrative based on my experience. Of course I don't know that as fact in this particular instance, nor do you.

You didn't answer my last question, maybe you'll answer this one. Do you think the opinion of the stewards can influence the chart maker? Isn't that possible without it being some grand conspiracy?
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Again, you are just making **** up. I never said there was collusion. I'm just giving what I see. Why, AGAIN, I don't know. I don't think there is any plotting going on behind the scenes as you imply.

Had the horse not come down, I don't think we'd have gotten the same narrative based on my experience. Of course I don't know that as fact in this particular instance, nor do you.

You didn't answer my last question, maybe you'll answer this one. Do you think the opinion of the stewards can influence the chart maker? Isn't that possible without it being some grand conspiracy?
I'm just trying to understand why the official chart of the race from an experienced chart caller would be "ridiculous" to use as a point of view?

You used the word ridiculous. The rest is just conjecture.
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Old 02-24-2014, 02:13 PM
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I'm just trying to understand why the official chart of the race from an experienced chart caller would be "ridiculous" to use as a point of view?

You used the word ridiculous. The rest is just conjecture.
Maybe ridiculous was harsh. But if you use the chart call as some form of evidence, you will nearly always side with the stewards. It isn't conjecture if it is true. Funny you won't answer simple questions. I'm sure you've been digging for some charts that make a DQ look questionable. (Hint: you'll be looking for a while)
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Maybe ridiculous was harsh. But if you use the chart call as some form of evidence, you will nearly always side with the stewards. It isn't conjecture if it is true. Funny you won't answer simple questions. I'm sure you've been digging for some charts that make a DQ look questionable. (Hint: you'll be looking for a while)
What questions won't I answer?
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What questions won't I answer?
You can re-read my posts as well as I can.
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