USC kills Notre Dame

[Rupert Pupkin]

Oracle, You better hurry and get down before the line goes up. They are already taking action at Pinnacle. The line opened at OSU -4.5. Now the line is up to OSU -5.

Just the fact that the line is so much lower than all you guys thought makes me like USC. When everyone thinks that a team is going to be an 8 point favorite and they only open as a 4.5 point favorite, I have to figure that the oddsmaker is sharper than the public. Haven't you noticed that when a line is way too low and the favorite looks like easy money, it usually turns out to be a sucker bet?

By the way, I haven't watched either team play this year, so I have no idea who is better.

[Cannon Shell]

Realistically, Michigan and USC should be playing for the right to play OSU. The differences between the two teams are slim. Michigan has a better feature back in Hart but USC has more depth overall. Both teams have big time receivers with nice complimentary receivers. Michigan has an ungodly turnover ratio with 10 turnovers versus 25 takeaways. USC can still get burned deep which is strange for a team with so much speed but they play an agressive west coast style D. Both teams lost primary receiver for some time this year and the QB's are eerily similar with Henne having more experience but Booty has been playing well of late. USC played a much tougher schedule but has a loss against an unranked team (though Oregon State would give any team in the top 25 a game in Beaver stadium) Michigan was life and death against Ball State in a game that everybody seems to forget. (I would safely say that Oregon State would beat Ball State by 30) Also I'm not sure what game you guys watched but If Ohio State doesn't make some bad turnovers, they wipe Michigan out. I thought that it was the most lopsided 3 point game I saw all year. Regarding conferences, the Pac 10 was much better top to bottom than the Big ten. The only quality teams from the Big Ten were OSU, Michigan, Wisc, and Penn State. Iowa was a dissappointment, Michigan State mailed it in after the ND game, Purdue is average at best, Illinois is bad, Northwestern is not good, Indiana stinks, minnesota was average at best. Pac 10 has USC, Cal, Oregon state, Ucla, Oregon, Asu, AZ, Wash state, all beat quality teams. Wash, AZ, ASU were not great but much better than Ill, NW, and Indiana. Stanford was the only real doormat in the league.
One thing that I give USC credit for is playing a tough non conference schedule. At Arkansas, Nebraska, Notre Dame is much tougher than Michigan playing Vandy, Central Michigan, ND, and Ball State. That alone should be the deciding vote. If Michigan wants to schedule cupcakes fine, but if strength of schedule is going to be a factor, then hold it against them and maybe they'll get a little more aggressive when they fill out the schedule.

[timmgirvan]

I think SC lost 3 safeties and 2 linbackers and 2 RBs due to injury this year, but they keep improving!

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Oracle, You better hurry and get down before the line goes up. They are already taking action at Pinnacle. The line opened at OSU -4.5. Now the line is up to OSU -5.

Just the fact that the line is so much lower than all you guys thought makes me like USC. When everyone thinks that a team is going to be an 8 point favorite and they only open as a 4.5 point favorite, I have to figure that the oddsmaker is sharper than the public. Haven't you noticed that when a line is way too low and the favorite looks like easy money, it usually turns out to be a sucker bet?

By the way, I haven't watched either team play this year, so I have no idea who is better.

Rup the odds on a game like this are set a little differently. Lots of sucker money and once a year betting money comes in, and when you have a team with a following like USC participating, they'd take their share of money regardless of how good they were and the opponent was.
I've seen both teams play, and no way in hell would OSU have lost to Oregon State, not even their 2nd string would lose to Oregon State.
They are getting an unexplained free pass on that game as compared to Florida and Michigan who lost road games to Auburn and Ohio St respectively.
OSU is just so much better in the trenches and they will flat out exhaust USC.

[timmgirvan]

It's gonna be a close game,Mikey! Better batten down the hatches

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

It's gonna be a close game,Mikey! Better batten down the hatches

Dude, this game will be a complete blowout.
The spread sure didnt help USC last year did it?
"Hes looking for the corner!!!!!!!!!! Hes got it!!!!"
I bet you guys still hear ole Keith Jackson in your nightmares huh? Enjoy!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK0xId3OY-A

[timmgirvan]

Mike: unlike you, I'm not fixated on a team, especially a team I don't like...kinda like you're doing! I think the game will be close...all the pressure will be on OSU to validate their lofty standing(which they deserve) and Troy Smiths' Heisman trophy. USC at its' best ...freewheelin and havin fun!

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Dude, this game will be a complete blowout.
The spread sure didnt help USC last year did it?
"Hes looking for the corner!!!!!!!!!! Hes got it!!!!"
I bet you guys still hear ole Keith Jackson in your nightmares huh? Enjoy!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK0xId3OY-A

......... no, not at all.......... 54-3.......OVER THE LAST 5 YEARS, thats just un****ing
believable

Originally Posted by alysheba4

......... no, not at all.......... 54-3.......OVER THE LAST 5 YEARS, thats just un****ing
believable

yeah well playing the oregons and arizonas and washingtons and toss in Stanford each year, and well, I guess thats ok.
OSU aint Arizona.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by oracle80

yeah well playing the oregons and arizonas and washingtons and toss in Stanford each year, and well, I guess thats ok.
OSU aint Arizona.

SC had the #2 toughest schedule in the nation, Stanford had toughest, Oregon and Cal were top 15 at 1 point...so there goes that rationale!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Rup the odds on a game like this are set a little differently. Lots of sucker money and once a year betting money comes in, and when you have a team with a following like USC participating, they'd take their share of money regardless of how good they were and the opponent was.
I've seen both teams play, and no way in hell would OSU have lost to Oregon State, not even their 2nd string would lose to Oregon State.
They are getting an unexplained free pass on that game as compared to Florida and Michigan who lost road games to Auburn and Ohio St respectively.
OSU is just so much better in the trenches and they will flat out exhaust USC.

There is no sucker money this early and by setting the line this low it looks as though the books want the sucker money to flow to OSU!