'Horseplayers' on ESQ TV -- Debuts 1/21, 10p ET

[Alabama Stakes]

never smoked the Blue green Algae, wonder if its as good as the blueberry diesel ? Funny last night when Larry David's sidekick bet on the 7 hoss, who wired at a good price. Before the race he said he was a closer, meanwhile that 23 year old newbie was convinced the 9 hoss was lone speed and looked ill when the 7 hoss made the lead. I think we all know that feeling.

[ateamstupid]

I thought I screwed up by not having win money on Flowing Mane at 16/1 that day, but Team Rotondo messed it up way worse.

[Calzone Lord]

I don't understand how having $20 to win on a 41/1 shot got him only $410 -- and merely moved him into 47th place after the race.

He should have been credited with more than double that, and would have been a lot closer than 47th place after hitting a 41/1 shot with his 1st play of day #2.

It doesn't even add up.

Maybe they cap the win payout at $40.00? If that's the case, wouldn't he have $400 instead of $410?

Even when you try to just watch the show, and not investigate the odds, they do stuff like that in the production that makes absolutely no sense at all.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I don't understand how having $20 to win on a 41/1 shot got him only $410 -- and merely moved him into 47th place after the race.

He should have been credited with more than double that, and would have been a lot closer than 47th place after hitting a 41/1 shot with his 1st play of day #2.

It doesn't even add up.

Maybe they cap the win payout at $40.00? If that's the case, wouldn't he have $400 instead of $410?

Even when you try to just watch the show, and not investigate the odds, they do stuff like that in the production that makes absolutely no sense at all.

I think I saw they cap you at $42 per $2, but don't quote me on that.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Scav

I think I saw they cap you at $42 per $2, but don't quote me on that.

That would make it $420 and not $410 if that's the case...and it would kind of defeat the purpose of taking 40/1 shots ...

although, I guess if you're 0-for-10 on the first day, you kind of have to be desperate from a strategy standpoint and chase after a crazy horse to get caught up. People in that spot have no choice but to look for something in the 15-to-1 to 20-1 range ... as opposed to the 40-1 range, but hey, if you hit with the 40/1 you're about the only person pulling a Lazarus, and catapulting your way into contention, instead of numerous people doing it with the 15/1 to 20/1.

[NTamm1215]

The win odds in the NYRA tournaments are capped at 15-1, so he must have had $90 from something on Day 1.

[cmorioles]

I imagine about 95% of the show is revisionist history, and another 4% is just embellished or outright false.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The win odds in the NYRA tournaments are capped at 15-1, so he must have had $90 from something on Day 1.

That's interesting.

I know Pat Cummings is dying to hit his caps lock button again and remind us all that "THIS SHOW ISN'T FOR ANY OF YOU!"

However, how can you possibly spend the better part of an hour reviewing a tournament and not mentioning something so critical to strategy as what the odds are capped at?

It's something that would take 4 seconds to mention, and 12 seconds to explain.