Exchange wagering this Summer in NJ?

[Duvalier]

"Midnight Riders" I've never heard of that...that's some interesting stuff. Were there any other not so well known fixes back in those days?

[randallscott35]

I'm sure making an exchange only open to one state will be a huge success. Who wants to take my action on 10 maiden claimers at Monmouth. I will give you 5-1 on the first Cibelli runner you see in there...On second thought, let me talk to her vet first.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I'm sure making an exchange only open to one state will be a huge success. Who wants to take my action on 10 maiden claimers at Monmouth. I will give you 5-1 on the first Cibelli runner you see in there...On second thought, let me talk to her vet first.

They aren't legal in any other states yet.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They aren't legal in any other states yet.

Yes Chuck. Reread my first sentence.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Yes Chuck. Reread my first sentence.

So why complain about it?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So why complain about it?

I think his point was that the market will be very thin being only NJ. Involved.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by jms62

I think his point was that the market will be very thin being only NJ. Involved.

Actually, it would seem utilizing New Jersey as a highly controlled test tube for Exchanges is an ideal introduction to the concept here. The rest of the jurisdictions and industry can see what works and what might need to be adjusted for a successful application sport-wide. The biggest issue was and is how much the exchange will contribute toward 'bricks and mortar' and if it's enough to offset what might come out of the part-mutual pools. Dennis Drazin on ATR later today to discuss it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by jms62

I think his point was that the market will be very thin being only NJ. Involved.

Regardless of the validity of your interpretation of his intent it just gets tiresome when seemingly there is negativity attached to every racing topic, even the likely positive developments.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

"Midnight Riders" I've never heard of that...that's some interesting stuff. Were there any other not so well known fixes back in those days?

Fixes weren't infrequent, relatively speaking. Pittsburgh Phil is credited in a Beyer book for bribing a jockey to be honest and paying him for wins. However, that was actually a method first used by Plunger Walton decades before him. In fact, The Albany Law site has a few pages on Plunger Walton doing exactly that. Pittsburgh Phil merely used the same method at a smaller track known for larceny.

I don't believe fixed races ever really happen anymore. Certainly not at the big tracks, or even the mid level tracks. If they happen, it's at a lesser track.

If you know how to play the offshore game, you can get good action offshore on some pretty cheap tracks.

Here's the famous bookmaker, horse bettor, and horse owner (he owned Roseben) Davy Johnson making a joke about one of the Night Riding incidents in New York that got a conviction...

[Duvalier]

That's awesome. Some real colorful characters back then. Someone should make an HBO type show from back in that day along the lines of Boardwalk Empire.

[Calzone Lord]