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Old 11-15-2013, 12:10 PM
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it's a mess. not sure how it'll go, but did find this article, and it had some interesting info.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/14/opinio...ntent=My+Yahoo

an excerpt, especially important for those who thought everything was just fine with our system before:

CHART 2: How bad it was before Obamacare

We may need a reminder of how disastrous our health insurance system was before Congress passed Obamacare. Just one way of looking at this is that health care spending as a percent of family income was already an astronomical 19% in 2009 but was projected to be 30% by 2019 and 48% by 2029 — unless something was done.


those are certainly unsustainable.
now, i know some are anti-aca, because they think they don't want to subsidize other peoples health care, while ignoring the fact that we've been subsidizing it for years already.
i don't like the aca because i think the whole thing could have been fixed in a much easier way, without all the involvement of so many agencies, and without all the various and sundry components.
however, something had to be done. it has been done. now we'll see how it goes.
another thing i'd recommend-allowing insurers across state lines. it's done with other lines of insurance, it should be for health as well.
Trying to defend the real, concrete consequences of ObamaCare with speculation on "how bad the old system would have been" will not save the president or his party from their upcoming political ruin.
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:59 PM
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I Hope your prediction comes true.
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Old 11-15-2013, 01:06 PM
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I Hope your prediction comes true.
i wish the government would improve.
counting on democrats or republicans to improve it is a hare-brained scheme.
the system must change. removal of big money from the top few rich who control all the puppet strings would be a tremendous start!
there's a reason why the one group of people who has shown financial gain in all the recent messes is politicians.
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Old 11-15-2013, 01:05 PM
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Trying to defend the real, concrete consequences of ObamaCare with speculation on "how bad the old system would have been" will not save the president or his party from their upcoming political ruin.
the republicans will save the president and his party from political ruin.

and it's funny that the guy speculating palin would be better is now anti-speculation. people get paid to crunch those numbers. facts can be pesky things...

what will those real, concrete consequences be?
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