BC '13 NOTEBOOK: Juvenile; Juvy Fillies; Juvy Turf; Juvy Filly Turf

[Kasept]

Breeders' Cup Juvenile, $2 million, 1-16 miles, 2 year olds

1- Havana (Todd Pletcher/Irad Ortiz)
2- Tap It Rich (Bob Baffert/Mike Smith)
3- Bond Holder (Doug O'Neill/Mario Gutierrez)
4- Strong Mandate (D. Wayne Lukas/Joel Rosario)
5- Dance With Fate (Peter Eurton/Rafael Bejarano) -- Juvenile Turf
6- We Miss Artie (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez)
7- New Year's Day (Bob Baffert/Martin Garcia)
8- Diamond Bachelor (Patrick Biancone/Julien Leparoux) -- Juvenile Turf
9- Cleburne (Dale Romans/Corey Lanerie)
10- Mexikoma (Rick Mettee/Shaun Bridgmohan)
11- Conquest Titan (Mark Casse/Eurica Da Silva)
12- Smarty's Echo (Anne Smith/E. T. Baird) -- Juvenile Turf
13- Medal Count (Dale Romans/TBD)



Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf, $1 million, one mile turf, 2-year-old males

1- Bobby's Kitten (Chad Brown/Javier Castellano)
2- Bashart (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez)
3- Diamond Bachelor (Patrick Biancone/Julien Leparoux) -- Juvenile
4- Aotearoa (Leonard Powell/Corey Nakatani) -- Supplementing
5- Poker Player (Wayne Catalano/Channing Hill)
6- We Miss Artie (Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez) -- Juvenile
7- Bon Accord (Antonio Sano/Eddie Castro)
8- Giovanni Boldini (Aidan O'Brien/Joseph O'Brien)
9- Got Shades (Danny Pish/Joe Talamo)
10- All Cash (D. Wayne Lukas/Ricardo Santana)
11- Dance With Fate (Peter Eurton/Rafael Bejarano) -- Juvenile
12- Home School (Doug O'Neill/Mario Gutierrez)
13- Ontology (Simon Callahan/Rafael Bejarano)
14- Smarty's Echo (Anne Smith/E. T. Baird) -- Juvenile
15- Outstrip-GB (C. Appleby/M. Barzalona)
16- Wilshire Boulevard-IRE (A. O'Brien/Ryan Moore)
17- Shamshon-IRE (Richard Hannon/Frankie Dettori)
18- Arpinati-GB (Stefano Botti/TBD)



Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies, mile and a sixteenth, 2-year-old fillies

1- Concave (Doug O'Neill/Patrick Valenzuela)
2- She's a Tiger (Jeff Bonde/Gary Stevens)
3- Untapable (Steve Asmussen/Rosie Napravnik)
4- Sweet Reason (Leah Gyarmati/Alex Solis)
5- Fascinating (Bob Baffert/Rafael Bejarano)
6- Artemis Agrotera (Mike Hushion/Jose Lezcano)
7- Secret Compass (Bob Baffert/TBD)
8- Rosalind (Ken McPeek/Joel Rosario)
9- Dancing House (Kiaran McLaughlin/Irad Ortiz)
10- Designer Legs (Dallas Stewart/Shaun Bridgmohan)
11- Ria Antonia (Jeremiah Englehart/Jose Ortiz)
12- Madly Truly (Mark Casse/P. Husbands)
13- Scandalous Act (Kathleen O'Connell/Eduardo Nunez)
14- My Conquestadory (Mark Casse/Eurico Da Silva) -- JF Turf (2)



Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf, Grade 1, $1 million, 1 mile turf, 2-year-old fillies

1- My Conquestadory (Mark Casse) -- Juvenile Fillies
2- Vorda-FR (Philippe Sogorb/Olivier Peslier)
3- Clenor-IRE (Doug O'Neill/Rafael Bejarano)
4- Testa Rossi-FR (Chad Brown/Jose Lezcano)
5- Sky Painter (Kiaran McLaughlin/Luis Saez)
6- Kitten Kaboodle (Chad Brown/Alan Garcia)
7- Granny Mc's Kitten (Chad Brown/Javier Castellano)
8- Nesso (Vann Belvoir/Martin Garcia)
9- Colonel Joan (Eoin Harty/Joe Talamo)
10- Al Thakhira-GB (Marco Botti/TBD)
11- Chriselliam-IRE (C.B. Hills/Olivier Peslier)
12- Dancing House (Kiaran McLaughlin/Irad Ortiz) -- Juvenile Fillies
13- Flying Jib (Dermot Weld/Pat Smullen)
14- Ready to Act (Chad Brown/Rajiv Maragh)
15- Rosaling (Kenny McPeek/Victor Lebron)
16- Street Sailing (Bill Helmbrecht/TBD)

[outofthebox]

I would think that the post draws would make up Casse's mind over which direction to go with My Conquestadory. No brainer....

[Alan07]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

I would think that the post draws would make up Casse's mind over which direction to go with My Conquestadory. No brainer....

Have to think they go in the JF Turf. Don't think Casse want to run on dirt with no lasix.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Alan07

Have to think they go in the JF Turf. Don't think Casse want to run on dirt with no lasix.

What would Lasix have to do with it? There is no lasix in JF Turf either.

How about the fact that the filly is by Artie Schiller, and never been on dirt before?

[wac]

oh no, i see medal count is listed in juvenile???? why on earth is romans doing this? I kinda like this horse as I said on an earlier thread. Steve, is there any reason why Romans is thinking about entering him?? seems WAY over his head at this point in his career and I just hope it doesn't ruin him. if he trains out in Calif. Steve can you let me know how it goes? just don't see a 2yr old Dynaformer doing well but I hope im wrong.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by wac

oh no, i see medal count is listed in juvenile???? why on earth is romans doing this? I kinda like this horse as I said on an earlier thread. Steve, is there any reason why Romans is thinking about entering him?? seems WAY over his head at this point in his career and I just hope it doesn't ruin him. if he trains out in Calif. Steve can you let me know how it goes? just don't see a 2yr old Dynaformer doing well but I hope im wrong.

He's not thinking of entering.. he's pre-entered. And I'd say that Romans wants to run him because he thinks he can be competitive. And recognize that owner B. Wayne Hughes and the Spendthrift team likely have a say in in the decision. There are 5 other horses in the Juvy with 2 starts -- or less when it comes to Tap It Rich -- so he's not giving away all that much experience. He has run 2 two turn races which only 4 other horses can say and has a higher last race Beyer than half the field. He's no more misplaced in the Juvenile than anyone else.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Kasept

He's not thinking of entering.. he's pre-entered. And I'd say that Romans wants to run him because he thinks he can be competitive. And recognize that owner B. Wayne Hughes and the Spendthrift team likely have a say in in the decision. There are 5 other horses in the Juvy with 2 starts -- or less when it comes to Tap It Rich -- so he's not giving away all that much experience. He has run 2 two turn races which only 4 other horses can day and has a higher last race Beyer than half the field. He's no more misplaced in the Juvenile than anyone else.

You were doing OK until this.

He's WAY slow, and surely more misplaced than Havana. I won't argue with you if you said he isn't substantially worse than much of the field.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Kasept

He's not thinking of entering.. he's pre-entered. And I'd say that Romans wants to run him because he thinks he can be competitive. And recognize that owner B. Wayne Hughes and the Spendthrift team likely have a say in in the decision. There are 5 other horses in the Juvy with 2 starts -- or less when it comes to Tap It Rich -- so he's not giving away all that much experience. He has run 2 two turn races which only 4 other horses can say and has a higher last race Beyer than half the field. He's no more misplaced in the Juvenile than anyone else.

I think this argument is now moot.