govt shutdown looms

[Danzig]

http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/30/news...obs/index.html


i went to Tom Cottons website to leave comments. i noticed he wrote that he was 'trying to protect arkansas from obamacare'. so it led me to look around, and try to find info on the act.
another thing i'm wondering...sequestration was supposed to be a killer. hasn't happened.
another question-what's hurting us more right now? the impending beginning of obamacare (since sign ups are occurring now, but it won't take effect til 1/1/14), or the govt shutdown already here, with a debt ceiling about to be hit, and no solution in sight?

also...how does the party that's supposed to be all about religion and god and what would jesus do, argue against medical care for the poor? how do they reconcile that?
how do they scream and rail against the govt in our doctors offices, while pushing legislation to put govt in doctors' offices with their 'pro-life' legislation? they don't want a mandate for insurance, to allow folks to go to the doctor, but they sure like mandates about what certain doctors have to do!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

also...how does the party that's supposed to be all about religion and god and what would jesus do, argue against medical care for the poor? how do they reconcile that?
how do they scream and rail against the govt in our doctors offices, while pushing legislation to put govt in doctors' offices with their 'pro-life' legislation?

What do you think Jesus would do/say regarding abortion clinics?

Even though The Little Sisters of the Poor and Catholic Charities are anti-gay hate groups (they don't support same-sex marriage) and are pro-life how many children/families do they feed?

How many do pro-choice groups feed?

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

also...how does the party that's supposed to be all about religion and god and what would jesus do, argue against medical care for the poor? how do they reconcile that?
how do they scream and rail against the govt in our doctors offices, while pushing legislation to put govt in doctors' offices with their 'pro-life' legislation? they don't want a mandate for insurance, to allow folks to go to the doctor, but they sure like mandates about what certain doctors have to do!

Because it has nothing to do with religious principles and everything to do with maintaining the current system of economic and social stratification. Women who do not have individual, independent control over their reproductive lives are not free.

The day the poor whites in Appalachia realize they have more in common with the poor blacks in inner cities than they do with the rich whites in gated communities is the day we'll see real change in the nation. Not until then.

Hell, even the Moral Majority movement started as a reaction against Carter's taking away tax benefits that let Southern Whites continue segregation through the guise of "religious schooling." The post-Nixon GOP saw an opportunity and grabbed it.

http://www.religiondispatches.org/ar...ndgender/6801/

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Because it has nothing to do with religious principles and everything to do with maintaining the current system of economic and social stratification. Women who do not have individual, independent control over their reproductive lives are not free.

The day the poor whites in Appalachia realize they have more in common with the poor blacks in inner cities than they do with the rich whites in gated communities is the day we'll see real change in the nation. Not until then.

Hell, even the Moral Majority movement started as a reaction against Carter's taking away tax benefits that let Southern Whites continue segregation through the guise of "religious schooling." The post-Nixon GOP saw an opportunity and grabbed it.

http://www.religiondispatches.org/ar...ndgender/6801/

There are pro-choice even for same sex marriage, republicans out there.

Just as there are democrats that are not government dependent.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Because it has nothing to do with religious principles and everything to do with maintaining the current system of economic and social stratification. Women who do not have individual, independent control over their reproductive lives are not free.

The day the poor whites in Appalachia realize they have more in common with the poor blacks in inner cities than they do with the rich whites in gated communities is the day we'll see real change in the nation. Not until then.

Hell, even the Moral Majority movement started as a reaction against Carter's taking away tax benefits that let Southern Whites continue segregation through the guise of "religious schooling." The post-Nixon GOP saw an opportunity and grabbed it.

http://www.religiondispatches.org/ar...ndgender/6801/

so true.
and this, on people who are being impacted by the shutdown, in ways they didn't expect:

http://news.msn.com/us/unexpected-sh...gs-mortgages-1

[joeydb]

If it prevents taxpayer funded abortion, they can keep the government shut down ad infinitum. This far and no farther.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

If it prevents taxpayer funded abortion, they can keep the government shut down ad infinitum. This far and no farther.

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look up 'hyde amendment'.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

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look up 'hyde amendment'.

Why feed the trolls?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Why feed the trolls?

because i like that picture?

[Danzig]

will saletan, on why the shutdown has occurred....and it's not over obamacare. but did anyone think it was?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...utdown_as.html


these same morons were howling about sequestration. no deal was ever made, even tho congress set a 'red line' to force a compromise. now, here we are again.

i am so fed up with these pols.