FL suspends, Tampa sanctions Cibelli

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

At least they DID something. It will be interesting if Margo is affected at all, because technically they have said she was an 'employee' of Cibelli, probably in more ways then one

Margo's pre-race analysis is just not replaceable.

[randallscott35]

Yet Ness strolls the grounds with the greatest of ease....

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Ness' vet is smart enough not to shoot up a knee in front of track personnel....

FTFY

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

FTFY

[Scav]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Yet Ness strolls the grounds with the greatest of ease....

Someone stated on the comments section of the Paulick report that Ness was not going back to Tampa this year. Now, obviously those have to be taken with the biggest grain of salt but if there is some validity to that, the place becomes bettable for those that are not center stage like some of our DT people.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Scav

Someone stated on the comments section of the Paulick report that Ness was not going back to Tampa this year. Now, obviously those have to be taken with the biggest grain of salt but if there is some validity to that, the place becomes bettable for those that are not center stage like some of our DT people.

Hmmm. Need to see it to believe it. And I like Tampa's product.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

Someone stated on the comments section of the Paulick report that Ness was not going back to Tampa this year. Now, obviously those have to be taken with the biggest grain of salt but if there is some validity to that, the place becomes bettable for those that are not center stage like some of our DT people.

I think Ness should be banned for life, but I don't think his presence makes the racing unbettable. To the contrary, you can make some real money betting against his horses in the right spots (usually in turf races where his horses don't figure and are still bet like it's dirt) and in other spots, he's as rock-solid a single as they come. Again, I don't condone what he does, but strictly from a player's perspective, there's upside to having him on the grounds.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I think Ness should be banned for life, but I don't think his presence makes the racing unbettable. To the contrary, you can make some real money betting against his horses in the right spots (usually in turf races where his horses don't figure and are still bet like it's dirt) and in other spots, he's as rock-solid a single as they come. Again, I don't condone what he does, but strictly from a player's perspective, there's upside to having him on the grounds.

I haven't pulled Formulator on him in a while, but if he claimed one out of a dirt sprint and ran him first out 2 turns turf, his win rate was like 6% or something, yet they always took a ton of because his first off the claim % is generally in the high 30's. Great bet against opportunities as you get inflated prices on logical horses.

I've learned to live with him. If he doesn't come back, I won't be doing cartwheels about it nor will I lose any sleep. will definitely have to alter my approach to wagering there though.

Of course, Zaidie will be waiting in the wings to take his place.

[NTamm1215]

I'm sure Ness will increase his string at Oaklawn with their gargantuan purses. He sent more last year.

[Cannon Shell]

I have absolutely no information and this is just speculation but perhaps Midwest is looking to something a little different. Virtually every huge claiming operation eventually loses interest in winning 8000nw2 races.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Margo's pre-race analysis is just not replaceable.

Maybe Sheets should start practicing..........