Butch Lehr on bias controversy -- Horseplayer Daily

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Oh, no,all 5 previous grade 1 winners of a sprint are off the board in the B C Sprint,but you could have seen that pure as f'n snow by capping.The sheets,and every other capping mechanism all pointed to the 5 previous grade 1 winners all being out of the tri in this Grade 1.We are not talking about winning here.I am talking about hitting the board.You're telling me that good handicapping would make it obvious that the previous 5 grade 1 winning sprinters in the race(as well as TM Bling) were gunna run out of the money? You make no sense.ZERO.Deny,like the Churchill Shills that you are,but people who know how to cap,know that track was f'd up.This is what almost always happens when a mistake is made.Deny the obvious.Attack the messenger.The problem is that all the evidence is on one side,It is overwhelming(as I just gave you about n grade 1 winners even hitting the board in the sprint.)No matter what,if you don't want to see it, you will deny the words of trainers who admit they benefitted by a quick inside strip.Why would they say this? Why would ONEIL say it was obvious the inside was the place to be? Why? It makes no sense.All the Churchill Shills can say is that people who lose blame the track surface.Oh,never mind the BC SPRINT Winning trainer also said it.What is your reason for him saying it? Come on.Make some sense, you shills.

The BC Sprint is the biggest crapshoot out there. Henny ran a terrible race, it had nothing to do with a rail bias. Bordonaro ran 4th. I don't even know who the other three G1 winners are, I guess Pomeroy was one. How did that rail bring Nightmare Affair up into the tri. If he ran that good despite the bias then are we really to believe that Nighmare Affair would have won the BC Sprint if there wasn't a rail bias? It was a hard race to come up with from capping, virtually impossible but that is nothing unusual for a BC Sprint.

I'm a Churchill shill? That's a new one.

O'Neill saying there was a bias was a brilliant move as I've said before on here. He offers it up while talking about his gelded BC Sprint winner that has no breeding value and in turn gives his intact Juvenile an excuse for running third.

[SniperSB23]

OK, I just realized that Siren Lure and Malibu Mint were the other two G1 winners. You want to use Malibu F-ing Mint as evidence that there was a track bias because she didn't hit the board? Give me a break. And Siren Lure wasn't worthy of holding the jock strap (or the horse racing equivalent) of Thor's Echo and Bordonaro at six and a quarter furlongs. I never understood why anyone thought that horse had a chance.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

OK, I just realized that Siren Lure and Malibu Mint were the other two G1 winners. You want to use Malibu F-ing Mint as evidence that there was a track bias because she didn't hit the board? Give me a break. And Siren Lure wasn't worthy of holding the jock strap (or the horse racing equivalent) of Thor's Echo and Bordonaro at six and a quarter furlongs. I never understood why anyone thought that horse had a chance.

And Pomeroy almost went down clipping heels with Thor's. He was full of horse early, sitting 4th with no urging and moving at will before the clip at the 3/8ths pole.
Henny didn't pick up his feet, he could have run across the infield and still lost.
Bordanaro lost by a photo for 3rd after pressing the contested pace the whole way.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by philcski

And Pomeroy almost went down clipping heels with Thor's. He was full of horse early, sitting 4th with no urging and moving at will before the clip at the 3/8ths pole.
Henny didn't pick up his feet, he could have run across the infield and still lost.
Bordanaro lost by a photo for 3rd after pressing the contested pace the whole way.

Henny never ran worse than 2nd (until he met that piece of crap track.)TM Bling never ran out of the money in a sprint(until he met that piece of crap track.)Race is gunna stick out like a sore thumb on the past performances of so many horses that are gunna roar back to show that track was simply crap.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Henny never ran worse than 2nd (until he met that piece of crap track.)TM Bling never ran out of the money in a sprint(until he met that piece of crap track.)Race is gunna stick out like a sore thumb on the past performances of so many horses that are gunna roar back to show that track was simply crap.

You fail to mention that TMB had (a) never run against older horses, and (b) was off a layoff since forever (not the way to win the Sprint.)

You fail to mention that Henny had only run once against older horses, broke poorly, shuffled back, was never perservered. He looked like LITF-lite to me (an overbet 3YO who had never faced a brutal field like this) coming in and proved that.

I rewatched the race several times, and Thor's was much the best on that day. I lost a ****load of money on the race because i didn't think anything of Thor's but I'm not searching for excuses. My horse clipped heels and almost went down costing him ANY remote chance, that's bum luck, that's all. My longshot ran 2nd at 58-1. I got nuttin' and that's my fault, not the track "condition."

I think that Thors benefited greatly by your horse clipping heals. That really allowed him to shoot up and totally take control of the race from the 3 path. But Thor was the best horse in that race on that day. I had him in the pick three only because I went 8 deep. The Sprint is always the hardest race--I always go back to Housebuster losing at like 3/5 when he stumbled at the start.