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Old 11-19-2006, 01:43 PM
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as the article said, this isn't the first time rangel has tried this. and i think this time will be just as successful as the last.
having seen in the last few months that both enlistments and re-enlistments exceed the set quotas, i think they'll have a hard time convincing many that the draft is necessary.

i know some countries, israel for one, have mandatory service in their military. i'm not so sure that would fly here.
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Old 11-19-2006, 03:58 PM
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as the article said, this isn't the first time rangel has tried this. and i think this time will be just as successful as the last.
having seen in the last few months that both enlistments and re-enlistments exceed the set quotas, i think they'll have a hard time convincing many that the draft is necessary.

i know some countries, israel for one, have mandatory service in their military. i'm not so sure that would fly here.
Danzig,
I sure hope you're right. Last I read, there was a third tour on the way for a unit. I need to search to find the link.
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Old 11-19-2006, 04:05 PM
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Danzig,
Here you go...
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...6/1012/LOCAL17
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Old 11-19-2006, 06:13 PM
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Just from a political point of view, I think it is political suicide for someone to support the draft. If Rangel had his way and the draft was brought back, I think that would kill the democrats. If one party is considered to be responsible for bringing back the draft, I think that party would suffer big-time at the polls. I think the vast majority of American are opposed to a draft.
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Old 11-19-2006, 06:16 PM
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I completely agree with the idea of a draft. This would give everyone a better appreciation of military sacrifice. Bring it back.
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Old 11-19-2006, 06:32 PM
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I completely agree with the idea of a draft. This would give everyone a better appreciation of military sacrifice. Bring it back.
Randall,
I don't know what you teach. I've taught history.
Military solutions don't seem to make sense to me anymore.
Politically negotiated solutions seem like a better option, whether it's before the bombs start falling and the bullets fly, or after the bodies of both sides are gathered for burial by their families.
Seems to me that all wars end at the same place. A few, fat, old, grey haired guys sitting around a table and talking.
Perhaps the "talking" needs to be done before the military commitment.
It ends up at the same place. Fat old guys at the table, denying the tragedies they've created, looking for their "share".
Peace.
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Old 11-19-2006, 06:40 PM
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I just read that the plan would be all men and women, including mothers and fathers, between the ages of 18-42 years old would be required to sign up.

I don't think this plan will go over too well. I think the President would definitely veto it if it passed Congress.
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Old 11-19-2006, 06:54 PM
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Randall,
I don't know what you teach. I've taught history.
Military solutions don't seem to make sense to me anymore.
Politically negotiated solutions seem like a better option, whether it's before the bombs start falling and the bullets fly, or after the bodies of both sides are gathered for burial by their families.
Seems to me that all wars end at the same place. A few, fat, old, grey haired guys sitting around a table and talking.
Perhaps the "talking" needs to be done before the military commitment.
It ends up at the same place. Fat old guys at the table, denying the tragedies they've created, looking for their "share".
Peace.
I teach history and am not someone who takes war lightly. At the same time, many countries including Israel and Singapore have mandatory military time for about 2 years. This isn't about being involved in a war, most of the last 30 years has been peacetime for this country. Iraq has really been an occupation, a poorly thought out one at that.
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:20 PM
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On the off chance that this is really how you feel, let me ask you: exactly on what points do you think that ANYONE on the planet will be able to reach compromise with Iran's Ahmadinejad? Where?
Cardus,
You must be getting your information from a different souce than me.
Last I heard, the USA wasn't at war with Iran.
Are you making this up or do you have a link?
What planet are you getting your information from?

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