6/8 (BEL) 145th Belmont Stakes: Field at 14 as 'Tiz' passes

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Krigger was cool when he was at suffolk. Even listened to instructions from railbirds like me.

Is it safe to say Revolutionary will be the Derby favorite ?

Do you really think that anyone with even a modicum of intelligence believes for a second that Krigger paid any attention to anything you yelled at him from the rail let alone took instructions from you as to how he was to ride a horse?

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by pointman

Do you really think that anyone with even a modicum of intelligence believes for a second that Krigger paid any attention to anything you yelled at him from the rail let alone took instructions from you as to how he was to ride a horse?

why don't you ask him ? do you think when he arrived in east boston he knew more about the suffolk turf course than me ? do you think he was on the rail every saturday after they scraped it ? or any of the other jockeys to whom I give strategic advice. Not all jocks can read the form, and their agents aren't much better. I have already told Calvin to have Rev. up and into the race. He will be in front of more than are in front
of him into the first turn. He will hit the front at the 3/16 pole. That's the plan.

I would bet that if Mr. Byk was advising some of these jocks they would have a much better idea on how to approach the race. He probably could make some money as an advisor. I would bet that Mr. Serling must have advised Mig in the past after some of the well timed winners he rode.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

why don't you ask him ? or any of the other jockeys to whom I give strategic advice. Not all jocks can read the form, and their agents aren't much better. I have already told Calvin to have Rev. up and into the race. He will be in front of more than are in front of him into the first turn. He will hit the front at the 3/16 pole. That's the plan.

What other jocks have you given strategic advice to? I find it hard to believe from your posts that you know how to read a form.

So now you have predicted that Revolutionary will win the triple crown and that he is going to change his style in the Derby and be in the first half of the field by the first turn which is entirely different then the deep closer that he has been in the past. All this without even consideration to the draw.

If that isn't far fetched enough, you want people to believe that it is because you instructed Borel to do that? It doesn't matter what the owner, trainer and Borel think, Borel is going to use your plan? Could you be a bigger tool?

It is hard to believe that the weight that you have put on this poor horse can be overcome by even the greatest of throughbreds.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by pointman

Do you really think that anyone with even a modicum of intelligence believes for a second that Krigger paid any attention to anything you yelled at him from the rail let alone took instructions from you as to how he was to ride a horse?

don't be so dismissive. i once yelled at an outfielder to "catch the damn ball!" and he did it.

alabama believes that jockeys take notes from random ninnies in the crowd. and i believe i helped orel hirscheiser close out the mets in the 88 nlcs.

[Kasept]

It's a NO from Tiz a Minister's team. 19 in Derby... for now.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Kasept

It's a NO from Tiz a Minister's team. 19 in Derby... for now.

Disappointed but good call by the connections putting him first.

Hope they make it to the Derby some day.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

don't be so dismissive. i once yelled at an outfielder to "catch the damn ball!" and he did it.

alabama believes that jockeys take notes from random ninnies in the crowd. and i believe i helped orel hirscheiser close out the mets in the 88 nlcs.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

don't be so dismissive. i once yelled at an outfielder to "catch the damn ball!" and he did it.

alabama believes that jockeys take notes from random ninnies in the crowd. and i believe i helped orel hirscheiser close out the mets in the 88 nlcs.

[Alan07]

Fear The Kitten going to be entered w/ Alan Garcia listed as jockey.

[tjfla]

Originally Posted by Alan07

Fear The Kitten going to be entered w/ Alan Garcia listed as jockey.

What a perfect match Ramsey and D Wayne would be!!!

Let's just hope Ramsey has him nominated before he tries to enter him

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by tjfla

What a perfect match Ramsey and D Wayne would be!!!

Let's just hope Ramsey has him nominated before he tries to enter him

He's not a Ramsey horse.

[tjfla]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

He's not a Ramsey horse.

Ya just noticed that got him mixed up with Charming Kitten.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Alan07

Fear The Kitten going to be entered w/ Alan Garcia listed as jockey.

With a grand total of 6 Derby points. I had read where Vegas had a prop bet of the over/under to make the field being set a 20. I had thought at the time that was a ridiculously low number.

6 is unimaginable.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

With a grand total of 6 Derby points. I had read where Vegas had a prop bet of the over/under to make the field being set a 20. I had thought at the time that was a ridiculously low number.

6 is unimaginable.

I think the over/under was 29.5 at one casino.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

With a grand total of 6 Derby points. I had read where Vegas had a prop bet of the over/under to make the field being set a 20. I had thought at the time that was a ridiculously low number.

6 is unimaginable.

Don't forget that 7 horses with 30 points or more are either inactive or off the trail.

This is why the outcry when the system came out about how "so and so would have been excluded" was ridiculous. There are going to be years where the standings are so top heavy (like 2013). All of the top 6 won 2 Derby preps with the exception of Java's War, who finished 2nd in the TB Derby. If there's more of a spread among the prep winners next year, the bottom for points will be a lot higher.

[Calzone Lord]

Orb is obviously going to be the post time favorite in the Kentucky Derby, and he just ran 11 lengths slower than Dreaming of Julia on the same day and same distance.

She's excluded from entering in favor of Fear The Kitten, now that Tiz A Minsiter is out after his 3rd place finish in the Cal Bred stake last weekend.

You know, because she didn't "earn" her way in like they did.