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Old 04-26-2013, 11:59 AM
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Old 04-26-2013, 12:15 PM
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rosario, wins the dubai world cup, loses ride on animal kingdom:

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Old 04-27-2013, 09:26 AM
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In baseball they term someone a 5-Tool player if they excel at basically every facet of the game. IMO Rosario would be a Jockey version of a 5-Tool player. He is equally adapt on Dirt, Turf , All-Weather, Sprints or Routes. He can come from off the pace with exact timing or he can win on the front end nursing his speed. This IMO is very rare as I think jocks have their area of expertise. Leparoux for one IMO is way more effective on Turf coming late. He is a great play against on a favorite needing the lead. Desourmeux of old used to be the same way.
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I agree and Bejarano has the same tools, plus they both put their horses in positions to give there horses a shot to win.
Bejarano is good, but not sure he could have done what Joel has done moving east.

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I think it is important to remember that Julian Leparoux won every Keeneland meet from 2010-present doing the exact same thing Rosario has done. He's riding the Maker/Ramsey horses.

I actually think it will be interesting to see how he does at Belmont. No doubt he will have a fine meet, because he'll ride good horses and is a great rider.

He won't have that at Belmont.
Leparoux, JJ, Jr would be the guys I would say have top jockey skills right now. Rick Dominguez would be if healthy. But Joel has proven himself so quickly back east and now is better than he was in Cali and getting better. He will kill it at Belmont.
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:45 AM
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I had the opportunity to meet Joel at Saratoga 2012....

he is a fine young man and one heck of a rider...

By the way, the other big jockey story in 2013 (as Steve has brought up) is the comeback of Mr. Prado...

I remember getting into an argument with some Gulfstream railbirds back in 2011 who said that Edgar's career was over.

Great to see him back at the top of his game again......
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Old 04-27-2013, 10:23 AM
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Leparoux, JJ, Jr would be the guys I would say have top jockey skills right now. Rick Dominguez would be if healthy. But Joel has proven himself so quickly back east and now is better than he was in Cali and getting better. He will kill it at Belmont.
Who is Rick Dominguez?
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Old 04-27-2013, 10:27 AM
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Who is Rick Dominguez?
As if you didn't already know he was clueless.
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Rosario won 5 more tonight on opening night at Churchill.
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Very happy for Shug/Joel. Two guys who do all the dirty work to be as great as they are.
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:46 PM
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Very happy for Shug/Joel. Two guys who do all the dirty work to be as great as they are.
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Old 05-04-2013, 06:02 PM
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Very happy for Shug/Joel. Two guys who do all the dirty work to be as great as they are.



i am thrilled for shug, and for all the connections of orb. decades of hard work went into that horse, and he paid them all in spades.

so, so happy for them all. but especially shug, and of course for joel.
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Old 04-27-2013, 12:16 PM
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Who is Rick Dominguez?
Ramon. My phone auto corrected spelling.
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Old 04-27-2013, 12:57 PM
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Ramon. My phone auto corrected spelling.
Did it auto correct Leparoux in the sentence before that as well?
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rosario, wins the dubai world cup, loses ride on animal kingdom:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ngdom-at-ascot
I agree with the move back to JV. He has ridden @ Ascot before while JR hasn't.
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:54 AM
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I agree with the move back to JV. He has ridden @ Ascot before while JR hasn't.
yes, i saw that in the article. but i'd have to think rosario could come to grips with riding on a straightaway.
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rosario, wins the dubai world cup, loses ride on animal kingdom:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ngdom-at-ascot
Another Dick move by Barry imo. Why are there so many good horses owned by a Dick?
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Another Dick move by Barry imo. Why are there so many good horses owned by a Dick?
Wealthy Dick.
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rosario, wins the dubai world cup, loses ride on animal kingdom: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ngdom-at-ascot
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I agree with the move back to JV. He has ridden @ Ascot before while JR hasn't.
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Another Dick move by Barry imo. Why are there so many good horses owned by a Dick?
I'm pretty critical of Irwin generally, but this situation involved factors other than his usual peccadilloes. It involves some tensions between the Animal Kingdom 'camp' and Rosario agent Ron Anderson.
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As to Rosario overall, coupled with Anderson's famously outstanding 'agentship', he's sure elevated himself to the top of the rider pecking order nationally.
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:51 AM
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As to Rosario overall, coupled with Anderson's famously outstanding 'agentship', he's sure elevated himself to the top of the rider pecking order nationally.
By riding Ramsey's Rockets? Rosario is terrific but lets not too excited about wins on horses that were primed to excel. Surely any competent jock would have been able to be carried to the finish line by those "well meant" animals.
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By riding Ramsey's Rockets? Rosario is terrific but lets not too excited about wins on horses that were primed to excel. Surely any competent jock would have been able to be carried to the finish line by those "well meant" animals.
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