dear bernardini fans....

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

If you have watched the horse's races critically, you would have realized by the half mile in the BCC that the horse was not on his A game.

he ran figures on par with his others this year. he ran his race. he just had better competition this time. and that made all the difference.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

he ran figures on par with his others this year. he ran his race. he just had better competition this time. and that made all the difference.

I don't trust those figures for that race. IMO, they were too high based on the final time of the race.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I don't trust those figures for that race. IMO, they were too high based on the final time of the race.

beyers were right for all his others, but not this one?

Originally Posted by Danzig188

beyers were right for all his others, but not this one?

Don't you get it yet Zieg? Here is how it works. If they don't like a horse, lets say St Liam, when he gets beat shipping to another track, he ran his A race but he just wasnt good enough and his other figures were too high.
When a horse they like gets beat, he definitely didn't run his A race and they gave him a figure too low to boot.
In other words when they are right they are right, and when they are wrong they are right also.
Come on Zieg, get with the program!!!!!!
I mean, the fact that his internal fractions were the same as his other races, and that those fractions didn't get him an easy perfect trip with a loose lead or clear stalking position is absolutely irrelevent!!!!!
I'm very disapppointed in you Zieg, trying to use common sense and logic will get you absolutely nowhere in arguing affairs of the heart. Now go sniff some paint thinner, knock a few dozen points off your iq, and get back to us.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Don't you get it yet Zieg? Here is how it works. If they don't like a horse, lets say St Liam, when he gets beat shipping to another track, he ran his A race but he just wasnt good enough and his other figures were too high.
When a horse they like gets beat, he definitely didn't run his A race and they gave him a figure too low to boot.
In other words when they are right they are right, and when they are wrong they are right also.
Come on Zieg, get with the program!!!!!!
I mean, the fact that his internal fractions were the same as his other races, and that those fractions didn't get him an easy perfect trip with a loose lead or clear stalking position is absolutely irrelevent!!!!!
I'm very disapppointed in you Zieg, trying to use common sense and logic will get you absolutely nowhere in arguing affairs of the heart. Now go sniff some paint thinner, knock a few dozen points off your iq, and get back to us.

classic oracle. thank you -- this is why i continue to risk your wrath and the embarassment that often follows several years later -- because every now and then i get to read a post like this.

made work enjoyable for a few minutes

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

classic oracle. thank you -- this is why i continue to risk your wrath and the embarassment that often follows several years later -- because every now and then i get to read a post like this.

made work enjoyable for a few minutes

Dude you are a good guy, I especially liked your letter to the DRF. When we are jawing horses, it ain't personal, not just with you but with anyone.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Dude you are a good guy, I especially liked your letter to the DRF. When we are jawing horses, it ain't personal, not just with you but with anyone.

i know you're just ****ing around most the time -- but it certainly doesn't make it any more fun to get publically embarrassed by you on the few occasions when you are, in fact, right.

i've also been enjoying your chronicaling of your kent d. vs. channing hill mistake. how many times has something like that happened to me. i feel the same way about larry sterling jr in chicago -- how many times have my friends or i been LSJ-ed at the track as if he singlehandedly stole your money? I can't even begin to count.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Don't you get it yet Zieg? Here is how it works. If they don't like a horse, lets say St Liam, when he gets beat shipping to another track, he ran his A race but he just wasnt good enough and his other figures were too high.
When a horse they like gets beat, he definitely didn't run his A race and they gave him a figure too low to boot.
In other words when they are right they are right, and when they are wrong they are right also.
Come on Zieg, get with the program!!!!!!
I mean, the fact that his internal fractions were the same as his other races, and that those fractions didn't get him an easy perfect trip with a loose lead or clear stalking position is absolutely irrelevent!!!!!
I'm very disapppointed in you Zieg, trying to use common sense and logic will get you absolutely nowhere in arguing affairs of the heart. Now go sniff some paint thinner, knock a few dozen points off your iq, and get back to us.

lol

oracle, you truly did make me laugh out loud.

things is, bernardini ran his same race. but the competition wasn't the same. that's why he didn't draw away, didn't make an easy lead, and didn't romp home. he didn't look worse, he looked the same. but the gap was narrowed because his competition was more talented. he ran the same time-wise as his jcgc, and ran the same figures he's been running all year.

i have NEVER knocked bernardini. not once ever. just want to remind everyone of that fact before anyone tries to suggest i've always been down on him. i thought he was a really good colt. but not the best i've seen in years, the jury is out on whether he was the best of the bunch THIS year. he should and will win the eclipse, imo that's a given.. buthe is not a great. if he was, than what about invasor, who beat him?
also, figure-wise, discreet cat was faster this year than his stable-mate. after all, he was the go-to guy if for some reason bernardini couldn't run. that speaks volumes about how truly good they think he is.