Has any horse in history ever done less & was 12/1 to win the Derby two months out?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

I'm not sure that it matters much, but Orb looked totally spent after the FOY. At one point it looked like he was going to fall down on the way to the winners circle.

Nice call, the day after the race Shug was on with Steve and said Orb will run forever. Trainers are wrong all the time but Shug bearly tells you he like a horse after a G3 win, if he says the horse can run all day he means it. Orb may not be good enough to win G1 races but distance isnt going to be the issue..

[Calzone Lord]

Orb fits the profile of the type of horse who finishes 3rd or 4th in the Derby.

He has never demonstrated any early speed.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Orb fits the profile of the type of horse who finishes 3rd or 4th in the Derby.

He has never demonstrated any early speed.

Or first in the Indiana Derby

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Orb fits the profile of the type of horse who finishes 3rd or 4th in the Derby.

He has never demonstrated any early speed.

Agreed, particularly in recent years. Leave him off exotics at your own peril.