bcs games

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

What would be so wrong about the SEC Champ game loser (who will have 2 conf losses) not getting in while a 1-loss Fla does? I understand UGA fans may b.itch about having beaten Fla, but they were extraordinarily fortunate to win that game.

Because the team they beat to play in the championship (extra) game moves ahead of them by NOT playing? It doesnt matter if GA was fortunate to beat FL because the system only penalizes losses.

The problem is the SEC championship game (and ACC and Pac 12, etc) is a farce that is created soley for a paycheck for the conference. It has almost nothing to do with the BCS which is supposedly the way that the national championship is determined. Last year Alabama which didnt even play in the conference championship game and yet still played for the Nat'l championship and won Nat'l Championship.

College football has an imperfect system mostly because of greed. It isnt that different than racing but they do a better job of hiding it.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Because the team they beat to play in the championship (extra) game moves ahead of them by NOT playing? It doesnt matter if GA was fortunate to beat FL because the system only penalizes losses.

The problem is the SEC championship game (and ACC and Pac 12, etc) is a farce that is created soley for a paycheck for the conference. It has almost nothing to do with the BCS which is supposedly the way that the national championship is determined. Last year Alabama which didnt even play in the conference championship game and yet still played for the Nat'l championship and won Nat'l Championship.

College football has an imperfect system mostly because of greed. It isnt that different than racing but they do a better job of hiding it.

exactly!
fla doesn't get to play for the conference, didn't win their division, so they're going to get a better bowl. how does that make sense? the division east and west winners should be sec #'s 1 and 2. sec #1 goes to the title, so sec #2 gets the sugar. a runner up shouldn't be able to leapfrog the division winner who played for the conference championship. the loser tomorrow should get the sugar, not florida. if they didn't have a championship game, ga or ala would get the sugar bowl. so let's penalize one of the two because there's a game?

[horseofcourse]

My favorite this year is a team that went 4-4 in a pretty weak big 10 this year could make the BCS. I'd say Wisconsin has a 50-50 shot to beat Nebraska. I find it all a joke. AFter a full season of football it's obvious who deserves the BCS bid in the probation laden Big 10...it's Nebraska. Thankfully Notre Dame did save the BCS from a duplicate situation this year with the SEC champ playing Florida for the title. I'll watch the championship game this year, I didn't last year. Had no interest for me. I understand the SEC is the best conference in football, but the title game last year was meaningless.

Until the NCAA completely ends it, the BCS, bowl system etc, they are hypocritical beyond comprehension with their money whoring. Get rid of conference championship games, end the seaon Thanksgiving weekend, and have a 16 team playoff and have the championship game at a warm weather neutal site. The end. It seems to work at division 1-AA, 2, and 3 just fine. They have even expanded beyond 16 teams I think with higher seeds getting first round byes. It would work and everyone knows it would work.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

My favorite this year is a team that went 4-4 in a pretty weak big 10 this year could make the BCS. I'd say Wisconsin has a 50-50 shot to beat Nebraska. I find it all a joke. AFter a full season of football it's obvious who deserves the BCS bid in the probation laden Big 10...it's Nebraska. Thankfully Notre Dame did save the BCS from a duplicate situation this year with the SEC champ playing Florida for the title. I'll watch the championship game this year, I didn't last year. Had no interest for me. I understand the SEC is the best conference in football, but the title game last year was meaningless.

Until the NCAA completely ends it, the BCS, bowl system etc, they are hypocritical beyond comprehension with their money whoring. Get rid of conference championship games, end the seaon Thanksgiving weekend, and have a 16 team playoff and have the championship game at a warm weather neutal site. The end. It seems to work at division 1-AA, 2, and 3 just fine. They have even expanded beyond 16 teams I think with higher seeds getting first round byes. It would work and everyone knows it would work.

sure it would work.

it's the money. all about the money. for many of these schools, the football program funds the rest of their sports. maryland for example cut 8-9 sports in the past year, they didn't have the funds.

playoffs work for the smaller schools because they don't have a lucrative bowl system already in place. you can bet your behind if fbs finds a way for playoffs to pay what bowls do, they'll change. until then, forget it.
they made the deals to take conference champs to keep money going to more schools. if you go by top ten alone, you'll have sec taking home the bulk of the cash. in the current system, you have many schools sharing the tv wealth. change to playoffs, and that will all go away. then only a few schools would have the funds, and the others would disappear.

Muschamp had the right take on this earlier in the week. When asked to comment on Sabin's bemoaning the fact that the loser of the 'Bama/GA game will not go the Sugar Bowl, he simply offered to take the Tide's place against GA for the title game.

[Danzig]

"With Northern Illinois, Louisville and Wisconsin all earning BCS bowls, it marks the first time in the BCS era (since 1999) that three teams ranked lower than No. 15 earned a BCS bowl berth."


the rule that created the above illustrates perfectly why there will not be a playoff. conferences have to be assured a spot so as to provide funds to schools. this is why schools jockey to get into certain conferences, so they can share the wealth. it's why notre dame, other than football, joined a conference. and only notre dame has enough backing to forego joining a conference in football. so that should tell you just how much money is flowing into that school.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

Muschamp had the right take on this earlier in the week. When asked to comment on Sabin's bemoaning the fact that the loser of the 'Bama/GA game will not go the Sugar Bowl, he simply offered to take the Tide's place against GA for the title game.

always very easy to talk trash when it's hypothetical.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

always very easy to talk trash when it's hypothetical.

talk trash? he was responding to trash.