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[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GBBob

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/16641...manti-teo.html

when they were discussing matthieu last year (glad he didn't get it, knowing all that's happened since) they said only one defensive player ever had gotten the heisman. and probably with good reason.
manziel has had a terrific season, but probably won't get some votes because he's a freshman (i think that is absurd, if he was the best player, why does it matter what year he's in?) so there has been and always will be people who won't for certain players for certain reasons. and one of those reason will always be position played. after all, linemen never get a nod. ray guy still isn't in the hall. plenty of examples of people who weren't considered the best player because of their position, or which side of the ball they play on. not saying it's right, it's just how it is.

[IrishofNDMan]

Manziel got arrested in July in an incident in which racial slurs were used by his buddy, doesn't seem like a guy heisman worthy.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Manziel got arrested in July in an incident in which racial slurs were used by his buddy, doesn't seem like a guy heisman worthy.

I know you love ND but this is just silly. Why should he be responsible for something his buddy said in anger? Gino Toretta won the Heisman Trophy, the trophy has been a joke since.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Manziel got arrested in July in an incident in which racial slurs were used by his buddy, doesn't seem like a guy heisman worthy.

ok, ndfan. do you feel you should be held responsible for the actions of a buddy?
hell, cam newton was a thief, didn't keep him from winning. but a guy who was with a guy who said some things, that should keep manziel from winning?

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

ok, ndfan. do you feel you should be held responsible for the actions of a buddy?
hell, cam newton was a thief, didn't keep him from winning. but a guy who was with a guy who said some things, that should keep manziel from winning?

No but he was arrested for getting in a fight with the guy the racial slurs were directed at, he's not innocent in all this.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

No but he was arrested for getting in a fight the racial slurs were directed at, he's not innocent in all this.

you're reaching.

''He was charged with misdemeanors including disorderly conduct, failure to identify and possessing false I.D.'' egads, why is he not in jail????? throw the book at him.

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you're reaching.

''He was charged with misdemeanors including disorderly conduct, failure to identify and possessing false I.D.'' egads, why is he not in jail????? throw the book at him.

I'm not saying throw him in jail, but the heisman is suppose to be about on the field and off the field, someone who represents way a college athlete is. Look up the whole spew on what the heisman recognizes.

[Danzig]

after seeing newton get the award, there is no way anyone can say a thing about manziel in that regard, regardless of heisman spiels.

btw, i am not advocating for 'johnny football' at all in regards to whether he is most deserving this year. i am saying, however, that his off the field antics don't rise to the level of ineligibility.

[IrishofNDMan]

If it was NDs qb tommy Rees goon for heisman if say absolutely not after he was arrested before the season. This award is a privilege, you should be held to a higher standard to win the award although I know that hasn't always been the case. Try finding dirt on manti teo, you'll be looking a long time and come up empty.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Last thing for the night, if Manti Teo doesn't win the heisman then that award is officially offensive players only. I honestly think they will give it to him and he is well deserving of it. He embodies what a college athlete should be on and off the field, class act.

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

If it was NDs qb tommy Rees goon for heisman if say absolutely not after he was arrested before the season. This award is a privilege, you should be held to a higher standard to win the award although I know that hasn't always been the case. Try finding dirt on manti teo, you'll be looking a long time and come up empty.

In retrospect....this is some pretty funny sh.it.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

In retrospect....this is some pretty funny sh.it.

yes it is! OVER-hyped LB and MUCH More OVER-hyped nd football team!

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

In retrospect....this is some pretty funny sh.it.

I'm waiting for more info to come out, but I still say his caring personality was taken advantage of and he was sucked in to fall in love with a girl he thought was sick and dying. Only thing I can fault him for is making up parts of the story, but I think that was out of embarrassment that he was in love with someone strictly online. The truth will come out, trust me I wasn't always defending manti. I called my buddies and my dad when news first broke and told them I can't believe this guy and I lost all respect for manti. Once I calmed down and heard more facts I began to believe he is that same high character guy and will believe until proven otherwise.

And you guys thought ND was no longer relevant, this **** is bigger than lance Armstrong simply because it happened at ND.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

In retrospect....this is some pretty funny sh.it.

yeah, i was thinking of those comments after i first heard about teo. people have got to stop thinking ability or talent equals 'good guy'.