Why Romney was blindsided by his loss, and why he lost

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i didn't know that.

but it's hard to have even less respect for someone who opted out of thoughtful consideration as an option during their legislative career. i think i had already flatlined. you can't make it worse.

Agreed. I can't believe they say that shi.at publicly and hope to get re-elected.

Well, at least many of them were sent home this cycle.

[Danzig]

On statistic brain, i read some of the following.

% us population on welfare....4.1. 4.3 million people


Recipients who are white...38.8%
". Who are black.....39.8%

Running neck and neck on that.

15.7% hispanic, but to hear some on here, youd think it was a LOT higher

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

On statistic brain, i read some of the following.

% us population on welfare....4.1. 4.3 million people


Recipients who are white...38.8%
". Who are black.....39.8%

Running neck and neck on that.

15.7% hispanic, but to hear some on here, youd think it was a LOT higher

I think statisticbrain misrepresents the stats. The 38.8 percent and 39.8 percent numbers are figures for poor single mothers receiving AFDC (Aid to Families with Dependent Children) assistance. Welfare in general is 61 percent white, 33 percent black.

Social Security, including disability payments, interestingly, is 88.7 white and 9.6 percent black.

The article has a lot more specifics. I don't know this blog at all, but the article seems pretty legit.

http://theobamacrat.com/2012/01/05/w...more-benefits/

[Danzig]

Had never heard of staticbrain actually. So that link was a first.
Thanks for letting me know it wasnt telling the whole story.
As for the above, i wonder why ss is so skewed.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Had never heard of staticbrain actually. So that link was a first.
Thanks for letting me know it wasnt telling the whole story.
As for the above, i wonder why ss is so skewed.

Oh, no worries. I often find I have to check things I find against another site and half the time I find they contradict each other. So much information out there!

The article I linked to goes into why SS is so skewed. It's an interesting read. I mean, the writer clearly has an agenda, but the stats seem to stand up to scrutiny, so I can read that and tune out the polemics, as it were.

^^^^ An obvious Hitchens wannabe.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Oh, no worries. I often find I have to check things I find against another site and half the time I find they contradict each other. So much information out there!

The article I linked to goes into why SS is so skewed. It's an interesting read. I mean, the writer clearly has an agenda, but the stats seem to stand up to scrutiny, so I can read that and tune out the polemics, as it were.

read the article, interesting points made. and i didn't know that the life expectancy differed due to race.
the only part of ss i ever get steamed about are when i know people who are getting disability, and shouldn't be. i have a brother and sister who both 'work the system'.
my sisters disability? stress.
my brother hurt his back on the job. they offered him a desk job, he said he can't sit for very long. too painful. but he sure can sit and play world of warcraft day and night. loser.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

read the article, interesting points made. and i didn't know that the life expectancy differed due to race.
the only part of ss i ever get steamed about are when i know people who are getting disability, and shouldn't be. i have a brother and sister who both 'work the system'.
my sisters disability? stress.
my brother hurt his back on the job. they offered him a desk job, he said he can't sit for very long. too painful. but he sure can sit and play world of warcraft day and night. loser.

That's frustrating to hear. I have a friend from childhood who is on disability, and needs to be, but it took her a long time to qualify and she was rejected the first time. But clearly in some areas one can manage to scam the system. Here in NYC I see ads for legal offices that tout themselves as firms to get people qualified for SSDI, and I just shake my head. I'm sure they take a cut of every check as payment.

I have a family member who tried (in PA) and it was pretty ridiculous. I mean, yes, she had to stop work in her 40s due to debilitating rheumatoid arthritis, but her husband made enough to support them both, so she didn't need SSDI and didn't bother to try to claim it. Ten years after she stopped working she then decided to try to qualify. Why, I have no idea, as they still didn't need the money. Fortunately, no SSDI lawyer would take the case, so she gave up.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

As for the above, i wonder why ss is so skewed.

Be cause of population percentages break down by race. Especially when you think of when the people who are now old enough to collect SS were born.

Seems about right.