MSNBC's Pricci: Sheikh greedy to retire Bernardini so fast

[King Glorious]

Did this writer just say that if the Sheikhs were sporting.........like Mary Lou Whitney? The same MLW that retired the 3yo classic winning Birdstone before he could run as a 4yo? Someone care to explain how that's not hypocritical on his part for writing that?

I wonder how people would feel if instead of Invasor, they had ran Discreet Cat in the Classic......and he finished 7th as Bernardini romped home. I guess that would have been the sporting thing to do. Forget the fact (as the writer seemed to do) that they also own the horse that won the Classic. If they weren't sporting, they could have easily left Invasor sitting in the barn with Discreet Cat while Bernardini rolled to victory and with it, HOY and all of the accolades that come with it. Instead, they ran the two best horses in the race and that's still not enough for some of u.

People forget that the Sheikhs are into this game more on the breeding side than on the racing side. They didn't buy Bernardini as a racing prospect. They bought him as a breeding prospect and after giving him a season on the track, they are putting him to the use they bought him for. People keep talking about all the money they have and how they don't need the money from him being at stud. Those that say that are right; they don't need the money. But what they are hoping Bernardini can give them is something that all of their money can't buy; a homebred Derby winner. They would rather breed one Derby winner than buy 10 at the sales. People have different passions and ambitions in this game. They are chasing theirs. Why is that wrong? Why do they "owe" us more?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Did this writer just say that if the Sheikhs were sporting.........like Mary Lou Whitney? The same MLW that retired the 3yo classic winning Birdstone before he could run as a 4yo? Someone care to explain how that's not hypocritical on his part for writing that?

I wonder how people would feel if instead of Invasor, they had ran Discreet Cat in the Classic......and he finished 7th as Bernardini romped home. I guess that would have been the sporting thing to do. Forget the fact (as the writer seemed to do) that they also own the horse that won the Classic. If they weren't sporting, they could have easily left Invasor sitting in the barn with Discreet Cat while Bernardini rolled to victory and with it, HOY and all of the accolades that come with it. Instead, they ran the two best horses in the race and that's still not enough for some of u.

People forget that the Sheikhs are into this game more on the breeding side than on the racing side. They didn't buy Bernardini as a racing prospect. They bought him as a breeding prospect and after giving him a season on the track, they are putting him to the use they bought him for. People keep talking about all the money they have and how they don't need the money from him being at stud. Those that say that are right; they don't need the money. But what they are hoping Bernardini can give them is something that all of their money can't buy; a homebred Derby winner. They would rather breed one Derby winner than buy 10 at the sales. People have different passions and ambitions in this game. They are chasing theirs. Why is that wrong? Why do they "owe" us more?

i agree that they are comparing apples to apples in the case of marylou.

BUT, altho sheiks own both bernie and invasor, it's two different guys. thank goodness they weren't afraid of a bit of a family 'feud' and both ran their best.
and yes, it's the same thing i've been saying about bernardini, they want that homebred, that big stallion. but it's not as easy as they seem to think it might be.

everyone understands what they're attempting, they want that big classic winning horse. ironic thing is--they had him in bernardini!! Mo might never have another as good as him, regardless of the pairings they arrange for their colt in the shed.

It will be ironic if Bernardini never sires a Derby winner. His sire is phenomenal, yet he has not fathered a Derby winner. I am rooting for another Slew to sire a Derby winner before Darley gets theirs. Perhaps A.P. Indy or Mineshaft will do it. Vindication would really be great, as long as it is not a Darley-owned horse.

[Bernardini]

Originally Posted by Bold Reasoning

It will be ironic if Bernardini never sires a Derby winner. His sire is phenomenal, yet he has not fathered a Derby winner. I am rooting for another Slew to sire a Derby winner before Darley gets theirs. Perhaps A.P. Indy or Mineshaft will do it. Vindication would really be great, as long as it is not a Darley-owned horse.

such animosity, does it matter who owns a great horse or a great Sire ? btw I had a chance to tour farms around Lexington, and outta 20 odd sires(mineshaft, smarty, empiremaker, ap indy, congaree, etc) Vindication looked the best!!

Originally Posted by Bernardini

such animosity, does it matter who owns a great horse or a great Sire ? btw I had a chance to tour farms around Lexington, and outta 20 odd sires(mineshaft, smarty, empiremaker, ap indy, congaree, etc) Vindication looked the best!!

I think he ownership does matter. By the way, the animosity was earned.

[Bernardini]

Originally Posted by Bold Reasoning

I think he ownership does matter. By the way, the animosity was earned.

do you use that as a handicapping tool as well ?? ownership that is ..

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

i agree that they are comparing apples to apples in the case of marylou.

BUT, altho sheiks own both bernie and invasor, it's two different guys. thank goodness they weren't afraid of a bit of a family 'feud' and both ran their best.
and yes, it's the same thing i've been saying about bernardini, they want that homebred, that big stallion. but it's not as easy as they seem to think it might be.

everyone understands what they're attempting, they want that big classic winning horse. ironic thing is--they had him in bernardini!! Mo might never have another as good as him, regardless of the pairings they arrange for their colt in the shed.

It's different guys technically but it's still the same family. Technically, Discreet Cat, Invasor, and Bernardini all have different owners. Same with Henny Hughes and Dubai Escapade. If the writer and others are going to complain that they didn't run Dubai Escapade and Discreet Cat because the family already had others in the race, then those same people that are complaining should be willing to acknowledge that the family didn't just duck the race with anything horse that was able to beat the "star". If that's what they were attempting to do, believe me, a call would have been made and Invasor would not have been in the Classic.