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Old 09-19-2012, 02:42 PM
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Nobody is suddenly asking voters to prove who they are. That's not the deal with these laws.

What has happened with these laws is that all the things that you used to be able to use to prove who you are, all the forms of voter ID you have used legally in the past to allow you to vote -

- have been eliminated in some states - replaced now with more restrictive and fewer specific requirements.

These restrictive Voter ID laws are not asking for voter ID - they are taking a list of 20 items you have used a combination of, in the past, to prove who you are and enabled you to vote, and now saying only 2 or 3 of those things are valid.

You realize that "a test" has been overturned as an unfair discriminatory poll tax, right? It's illegal? I'll guess you don't understand why that would be illegal, because you are suggesting it
Lots of things that used to be illegal are now legal. More of those will follow. If these laws were illegal they would be overturned. Our court system is infallible.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:49 PM
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Lots of things that used to be illegal are now legal. More of those will follow. If these laws were illegal they would be overturned. Our court system is infallible.
Nearly all of these laws have been overturned this summer. It's a good thing
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:55 PM
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Nearly all of these laws have been overturned this summer. It's a good thing
Then the President will win again Chicago Style, good for you.
The rest of us will continue to have to scrape and fight for everything we can get while getting fleeced for some of the most ridiculous reasons.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:58 PM
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Then the President will win again Chicago Style, good for you.
Yeah, the GOP not allowing poor and minority American citizens to vote is the way you want it?

Seriously?

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The rest of us will continue to have to scrape and fight for everything we can get while getting fleeced for some of the most ridiculous reasons
And this random "I'm a victim" sentence is inserted because ... ?
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:14 PM
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Yeah, the GOP not allowing poor and minority American citizens to vote is the way you want it?

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And this random "I'm a victim" sentence is inserted because ... ?
I would like to see people be capable of proving who they are and that they should in fact be part of the voting process to be allowed to do so. Call me crazy.

WE are all victims of DC, some of us just realize it while others go along dreaming of slogans.
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:31 PM
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I would like to see people be capable of proving who they are and that they should in fact be part of the voting process to be allowed to do so. Call me crazy.
That's not the issue we are discussing.

People have always had to "prove who they are" to vote in the USA. That's why the incidence of voter fraud by identity deception is virtually non-existent in the USA.

People have used multiple forms of identification to legally "prove who they are" in the past, so they can legally vote.

Now, these new laws are eliminating most of those past forms of legal identification, restricting voting now to only a few specific types of ID's

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WE are all victims of DC, some of us just realize it while others go along dreaming of slogans.
LOL - You can keep that role of victim all for yourself, thanks. Some of the rest of us will continue to pay close attention and exercise the control we have.
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:36 PM
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True believers are suckers.
Go ahead and exercise your control see if that stops your hero from being OWNED by the banks and a different group of wealthy investors than the ones you have been conditioned not to like, inform yourself and go out and make the best decision you think you can for the country. No matter what decision you make there is someone out there making the opposite one because they got swept up in a marketing campaign and actually believe what they see on TV or read in the paper or online.
The alarm clock is ringing, it is time to wake up.
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