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Old 08-25-2012, 08:42 PM
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Fault is the exact word I mean. And how is it misfortune? If Alpha sticks his nose in front, those backing Goldem Ticket get nothing. If it goes the other way a few people hit it big, but a lot more get nothing. In this outcome, more people won something.
I do get it, that is the "rule" and I am not claiming "foul play". I am simply asking the question, why do they pay the win pool, double pool and pick 3 pool out with different amounts to each horse, based on how many people held winning tickets to their "half" of the pool, but the pick 4 gets paid out evenly? I would just like to know the reasoning behind the rule. I wouldn't expect to get my 7500 or so dollars, but as someone earlier pointed out, the dead heat cost me 7000, and those holding a ticket to alpha barely more than you tip the guy in the bathroom after a days worth of good drinking.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:52 PM
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I do get it, that is the "rule" and I am not claiming "foul play". I am simply asking the question, why do they pay the win pool, double pool and pick 3 pool out with different amounts to each horse, based on how many people held winning tickets to their "half" of the pool, but the pick 4 gets paid out evenly? I would just like to know the reasoning behind the rule. I wouldn't expect to get my 7500 or so dollars, but as someone earlier pointed out, the dead heat cost me 7000, and those holding a ticket to alpha barely more than you tip the guy in the bathroom after a days worth of good drinking.
Because for whatever reason the P4 is not split for dead heats but calculated on the number of winning tickets. This bet also has many other different features from the P3. They do it because that's what the rule is. The dead heat didn't cost you 7000, it resulted in a fixed payoff exactly like it is supposed to. Your horse didn't win outright, but unlike most times that happens, at least you got something for it. You don't like a rule, try to get it changed, but complaining about an outcome of a rule you accepted when you put your money down seems foolish to me.
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:16 PM
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I remember OTM AL once arguing this about the forced P6 carryover rule in the event of a mid sequence surface switch ... that eventually had Steve Crist flying off the handlebars on his blog after the second time it happened in about a month.

I agree with OTM Al here... it's a rule (maybe not a fair one) and no one got robbed (unlike the forced carryover rule -- which is basically downright robbery and turns all winning tickets into losers with only a conso and makes the bet a higher takeout than you'd have if you responded to all of the E-mails you get from Nigerian Princes )

Obviously, the people who had only Alpha got a good break -- the people who had Golden Ticket in a winning sequence got a genuine bad break.
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