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Old 08-21-2012, 12:45 PM
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:03 PM
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:04 PM
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We have lost more of the class prior to Travers than I ever recall...
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:19 PM
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Sorry to hear that.

I don't see how horse racing can survive when it pays owners more to not race good horses, than it does to race them.
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:51 PM
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The consistent lack of racing by good race horses is obviously the main problem they have in terms of promoting the sport in the way they want to promote it.

It's hard to imagine another horse ever coming along even like Skip Away in terms of combining elite quality performances, consistency, durability, travel, and constant campaign from the latter part of a 2yo season all the way to the end of a 5-year-old season.

Awesome Again's undefeated but champion-free campaign of '98 was basically where the trendiness of these type of campaigns all started. Frankel helped a great deal soon after and when Pletcher noticed his stats were great with layoff and freshened horses and mediocre with horses who race on less than 4 weeks rest -- he adjusted his placement to his stats.

I don't see how another Skip Away is even possible in this climate.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:43 PM
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The consistent lack of racing by good race horses is obviously the main problem they have in terms of promoting the sport in the way they want to promote it.
who is "they"?
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Old 08-21-2012, 04:09 PM
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The consistent lack of racing by good race horses is obviously the main problem they have in terms of promoting the sport in the way they want to promote it.

It's hard to imagine another horse ever coming along even like Skip Away in terms of combining elite quality performances, consistency, durability, travel, and constant campaign from the latter part of a 2yo season all the way to the end of a 5-year-old season.

I don't see how another Skip Away is even possible in this climate.
It'll never happen again, you'd need a perfect storm in horse, owner and trainer and their ability to fend off the breeding offers.. Horses like Skip Away are gone for good and won't be coming back.
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Old 08-21-2012, 04:15 PM
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It'll never happen again, you'd need a perfect storm in horse, owner and trainer and their ability to fend off the breeding offers.. Horses like Skip Away are gone for good and won't be coming back.
Thats why fillies and mares kinda dominate the sport from a star standpoint in past years.
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Old 08-21-2012, 04:27 PM
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It'll never happen again, you'd need a perfect storm in horse, owner and trainer and their ability to fend off the breeding offers.. Horses like Skip Away are gone for good and won't be coming back.
It is possible with some lowly bred gelding.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:11 PM
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They said the injury likely occurred a couple weeks ago when he stumbled, but wasn't he 'not quite right' earlier than that? Equibase has his last listed workout as 7/8 for 5f in 1:01 handily. Something just seems weird.

I guess it's helpful for them that he got the G1 win with that margin of victory earlier in the year. It's not like people would doubt his talent with the Derby/Preakness finishes, but his only other win is breaking his maiden. Given his ability it would've been a real shame if he hadn't gotten a graded win on his record. Of course, maybe if he hadn't they might've been more inclined to try to bring him back in the future. Who knows? The Empire Maker connection and the fact that his sire is now in Japan would've still been an issue.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:22 PM
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I think most were expecting this news. Still, what a shame.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:35 PM
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Does it not seem the rigorous prep required to get these horses ready for Triple Crown races is taking its toll - I'll Have Another and Bodemeister were both seemingly rushed through preps to get there.
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