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Old 08-09-2012, 07:17 PM
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The point is that this is supposed to be the premier meet in the country. They only run 40 days, the SATURDAY card should not consist of 6 $20,000 claiming/md claiming races. Stop carding 10 and 11 races on Mon, Wed, Thu, might not have this problem.

We wouldn't be seeing these over-the-top 11 and 12 races card if NYRA wasn't being blown up after the meet is over. There are not enough horses to fill competitive races 5 & 6 days a week now (nationally, not just NY) unless you tap into the cheap claimers, and only going to get worse as the foal crops continue to decline. Be lucky the slots are still supporting purses.
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:20 PM
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I just don't know why everything needs to be a superlative.

I think it has to do with our society and the need to provide immediate context on everything - there is absolutely no arguing this Saturday's Saratoga card doesn't have the same degree of quality of other traditional weekend cards in the past. So - for that, it's impossible to disagree.

Now, is it a problem? I don't think so.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:42 AM
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I just don't know why everything needs to be a superlative.

I think it has to do with our society and the need to provide immediate context on everything - there is absolutely no arguing this Saturday's Saratoga card doesn't have the same degree of quality of other traditional weekend cards in the past. So - for that, it's impossible to disagree.

Now, is it a problem? I don't think so.
Impossible to disagree? You did exactly that on your first post on the thread.
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Old 08-10-2012, 11:25 AM
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Impossible to disagree? You did exactly that on your first post on the thread.
No, not really.

I complained about people complaining about claiming races at Saratoga on a Saturday. Factually, it is unarguable that there are more claiming races this Saturday than any of the Saturday's before and likely after. I accept and understand the card is this way, and rather choose to enjoy racing at Saratoga no matter what is thrown out there.
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Old 08-10-2012, 11:39 AM
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No, not really.

I complained about people complaining about claiming races at Saratoga on a Saturday. Factually, it is unarguable that there are more claiming races this Saturday than any of the Saturday's before and likely after. I accept and understand the card is this way, and rather choose to enjoy racing at Saratoga no matter what is thrown out there.
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I knew it was a matter of time before someone complained. Predictable. Take a look at the previous weekends at the meet. You write the races for the horses you have and can fill - they may have pushed a bit hard the first few weeks, but given that this is the only weekend without a G1, maybe it's a bit of a sacrifice. Surely we can make it through...

I'll take a "bad" Saturday, which I contend it actually isn't, over a good day just about anywhere else.
You can spin it anway you like. IMO if you had answered the guys post like NTAMM did (tactfully) I believe the issue would have been wrapped up after that. Saratoga usually has a mid meet weekend that is slower than the rest. Your response was more of attack the poster and dismiss their claims out of hand. This is a typical and "predictable" response by many in the industry in this situation. Kudos to Cannon for his candor.
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