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No, the only thing I believe I was wrong about is that he lost the race because that is the only TRUE fact that you can point to. He didn't fire, but so what? We'll never know how good he really was and it will all be specualtion and OPINIONS on how good the horse really was.....period

Bernardini would have NEVER let Sun King take him to a photo finish, but obviously that race was probably not Invasor's best, right? Think about it....we're talking about Sun King here

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

No, the only thing I believe I was wrong about is that he lost the race because that is the only TRUE fact that you can point to. He didn't fire, but so what? We'll never know how good he really was and it will all be specualtion and OPINIONS on how good the horse really was.....period

Bernardini would have NEVER let Sun King take him to a photo finish, but obviously that race was probably not Invasor's best, right? Think about it....we're talking about Sun King here

How is beating a horse that lost the Met Mile and the Whitney by a nose, two of the most prestigious races in the country for older horses, a negative for Invasor? Don't make the mistake of confusing 10 furlong Sun King with the 8-9 furlong Sun King on his best days. Using Sun King as a slap in the face for Invasor is about as relevant as using the horses that beat Bernardini in his first race as a slap in the face for him.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

No, the only thing I believe I was wrong about is that he lost the race because that is the only TRUE fact that you can point to. He didn't fire, but so what? We'll never know how good he really was and it will all be specualtion and OPINIONS on how good the horse really was.....period

Bernardini would have NEVER let Sun King take him to a photo finish, but obviously that race was probably not Invasor's best, right? Think about it....we're talking about Sun King here

It's really amazing. Continuing to suggest that Bernardini somehow didn't run his race, because to not say that allows for the possibility that you overrated him ( dramatically ), even though it flies in the face of logic, is actually incredible. I guess speed figures are only relevent to you when they somehow prove your point.

Not as incredible, however, as how you consistently deviate from the real conversation with some complete nonsequitor to somehow deflect from the real issue. It doesn't strengthen your argument....it weakens it substantially.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's really amazing. Continuing to suggest that Bernardini somehow didn't run his race, because to not say that allows for the possibility that you overrated him ( dramatically ), even though it flies in the face of logic, is actually incredible. I guess speed figures are only relevent to you when they somehow prove your point.

Not as incredible, however, as how you consistently deviate from the real conversation with some complete nonsequitor to somehow deflect from the real issue. It doesn't strengthen your argument....it weakens it substantially.

Okay, lets talk sheets if you want to bring in speed figures.....He was running negative 2s and negative 1s when just in a gallop in winning some of his races earlier this year. If you really belive that Saturday was his best effort then you must not have been following the horse well this year. I knew he wasn't running his best race Sat. when they went into the far turn...it happens.....it is all specualtion that it was or was not his best race....

Answer me this:

If Secreatriat would have retired after his Wood defeat to Angle Light and Sham prior to his Triple Crown run, would that have meant that he would have been not as good as Angle Light and Sham to you?....please

I'm sorry you don't have the instincts to recognize raw talent when it is in front of you, which may be because you are so blinded by the fact that you don't like the big shots in this sports and their horses are always going to start off behind the eight ball with you....

You are entitled to your opinion like we all are ion this great country, but to say for fact that Bernardini was proved Saturday to be not as talented as he was made out to be is just pure specualtion - and STRICLTY your OPINION

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It doesn't strengthen your argument....it weakens it substantially.

Again, this is absurd....there is no righ, or kind of right, or maybe right, or anything like that....there is no strength of opinions and closer to the fact or further from the facts in stating opinions....

It is my opinion that he was one of the most talented horses since the Bid and that he was the best horse I have ever seen - and I don't need anyone to validate that....

[Pointg5]

Isn't it possible your instincts are not as good as you think?

Originally Posted by Pointg5

Isn't it possible your instincts are not as good as you think?

Maybe...it is also possible that North Korea will nuke us tomorrow

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Maybe...it is also possible that North Korea will nuke us tomorrow

Okay, that's fine...

If he would have won, we would have seen a 100 posts from you telling how right you were, even you can't deny that(truthfully), so by winning it proves you right, but losing doesn't prove you wrong...Can't be both ways...

[Cajungator26]

Why does there have to be a right or wrong regarding this? I saw the race unfold in a different manner, and we all know that "opinions are like a$$holes... everybody's got one."

Originally Posted by Pointg5

Okay, that's fine...

If he would have won, we would have seen a 100 posts from you telling how right you were, even you can't deny that(truthfully), so by winning it proves you right, but losing doesn't prove you wrong...Can't be both ways...

Ask yourself this, would you have came on here and posted that I was right if he had won?...This is absurd...who cares?....the only thing I am saying is that I don't think he ran his best race and that I believe he is still one of the best horses in the last 15-20 years.......yes he lost, that is a fact...

Geez..

I never used any of your quotes in that post...not one - intentionally anyway. Quit giving yourself so much credit

Ohhpp, guess you deleted the post.....