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Old 07-08-2012, 09:21 PM
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Believe it or not -- the DRF of the 1970's and 1980's was like Blood-Horse ICE.

Blaming the media for a Jamie Ness isn't the most logical thing. Ness was a sports writer himself and worked in the press box at Canterbury. He doesn't care what anyone writes about him.

You can make jokes in front of other people with him listening about the Jamie Ness move where horses re-break, he'll laugh about it. You can go up to a TV screen he's watching and yell "kick in with the juice! kick in with the Ness JUICE!" as his horse is closing to win a race. He'll smile or act like he doesn't hear it.

The stewards, track managment, and racing officals are where the blame should start. Look at when Ness ran the wrong horse here, a KY bred in a PA Bred race no less, not only did they not suspend him... but the fine was only like $500.
Completely agree - ultimately it's the racetrack management that should be held accountable. But how do I do that? Reality, I can't. Used to be that the press could hold them accountable.......and I never claimed to be logical.... 8-)

It fries my ass to see a racing secretary give 50, 60, 70 and more stalls to guys like Ness. The claim is - "...they fill races...". Couldn't be more short-sighted and untrue. Ness/ Midwest bring nothing to the table but other owner's horses they have claimed. Instead of 7 different owners running their horses in a $10k claimer at Laurel, Ness will have 2 entered, and then claim another one out of the race. Next time the race goes with 1 less horse, Ness has 2 more entered, and claims another one. Next time the race doesn't go with 5 entered and management doesn't understand why. It's because Ness has half the horses, stupid - but give him 10 more stalls.... Ness/Midwest kills races, just like Gill did back in the day. The middle claiming races all but disappeared years ago in MD. Why? Because Gill claimed all the horses at the level and then moved 'em out of town when races didn't go. It's like deja vu' all over again..... Give him 10 more stalls.

Why does the racing media not stand up and make this an issue? Oh yeah - there's a Pick 6 carry-over at Hollywood.....gotta get down....

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Old 07-08-2012, 09:28 PM
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In New York, they tried to go very hard after Rick Dutrow Jr. They found a way to snipe Juan Carlos Guerrero at Parx. They ran Gill out of town.

Those three are realtive choir boys compared to someone like a Scooter Davis who has stayed at minor leauge slots tracks despite a lundry list of major violations, major move-ups, and repeated 29th chances to stay out of trouble.

Write a letter to the stewards and other racing officals...or just give in and use those guys as trainers.
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:36 PM
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In New York, they tried to go very hard after Rick Dutrow Jr. They found a way to snipe Juan Carlos Guerrero at Parx. They ran Gill out of town.

Those three are realtive choir boys compared to someone like a Scooter Davis who has stayed at minor leauge slots tracks despite a lundry list of major violations, major move-ups, and repeated 29th chances to stay out of trouble.

Write a letter to the stewards and other racing officals...or just give in and use those guys as trainers.
Speaking of the Devil, Scooter Davis just won with a horse at 46-to-1 odds first time in his barn...

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20120711&RN=4


He got him from Marc Shuman.
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:40 PM
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Speaking of the Devil, Scooter Davis just won with a horse at 46-to-1 odds first time in his barn...

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20120711&RN=4


He got him from Marc Shuman.
Can you post this horses PP's prior to tonight?
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:20 PM
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I will when I come back tonight.

Rest assured, it wasn't as big a move-up as this one ...




Nor when he claimed Deadly Dealer for 5K in a race where DD got smoked and ran like a 12 Beyer and transformed him to the DD of Pletcher days.
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:24 PM
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How come you never see a Ness horse on the NYRA tracks? Is he banned from them ?
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Old 07-11-2012, 09:19 PM
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:08 PM
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Speaking of the Devil, Scooter Davis just won with a horse at 46-to-1 odds first time in his barn...

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20120711&RN=4


He got him from Marc Shuman.
I very stupidly looked at that horses record and didnt think it could win. Scooter is an automatic for me at places like CT but will rarely ever be over 2 to 1. I guess they dont know Scooter at PID, yet
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Completely agree - ultimately it's the racetrack management that should be held accountable. But how do I do that? Reality, I can't. Used to be that the press could hold them accountable.......and I never claimed to be logical.... 8-)

It fries my ass to see Georgeanne Hale give 50, 60, 70 and more stalls to guys like Ness. The claim is - "...they fill races...". Couldn't be more short-sighted and untrue. Ness/ Midwest bring nothing to the table but other owner's horses they have claimed. Instead of 7 different owners running their horses in a $10k claimer at Laurel, Ness will have 2 entered, and then claim another one out of the race. Next time the race goes with 1 less horse, Ness has 2 more entered, and claims another one. Next time the race doesn't go with 5 entered and management doesn't understand why. It's because Ness has half the horses, stupid - but give him 10 more stalls.... Ness/Midwest kills races, just like Gill did back in the day. The middle claiming races all but disappeared years ago in MD. Why? Because Gill claimed all the horses at the level and then moved 'em out of town when races didn't go. It's like deja vu' all over again..... Give him 10 more stalls.

Why does the racing media not stand up and make this an issue? Oh yeah - there's a Pick 6 carry-over at Hollywood.....gotta get down....
Why didn't you just claim the horse back?
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