Where's the Scat Daddy Thread?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

If you think that was his best effort then you may want to try another profession. He was second on raw talent and heart alone, as I personally thought he was dead going into the far turn when Javier had to rouse him to take chase up on Brother Derek of all horses on the lead - whom we know isn't half the horse Bernie is....I knew he was beat at that point. When he fires his best shot he cruises to the lead under his own courage....I don't think he handled the track well, personally...

And yes, I stil think he was one of the more talented horses of the last 20 years and it is a shame he never got a chance to prove it.

Dude, I might want to try another profession? You are a confirmed chalk eating weasel who was full of bravado after any obvious short priced horse you liked won and were absent for DAYS after your mediocre opinions were exposed in the BC. Please.

But, furthermore, the rest of your post pretty much confirmed what I said. He ran a very good race despite everything not going his way. If you think cruising to the lead against High Cotton is the same as cruising to the lead against the likes of Brother Derek and Lava Man, among others, you are dramatically mistaken. You are the one that misevaluated this horse for months, said things that turned out to simply not be true, and are now acting like he wasn't himself because he was finally presented with a reasonably difficult challenge? Get real. The simple fact is he is the same good horse now that he was a month ago. He was never going to run faster if pressed, as you basically guaranteed, and he was never as good as the likes of Ghostzapper as you also claimed. Constantly suggesting horses that you were wrong about " didn't run their race " is NOT going to get you far. Ya know, even good handicappers are wrong most of the time.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Dude, I might want to try another profession? You are a confirmed chalk eating weasel who was full of bravado after any obvious short priced horse you liked won and were absent for DAYS after your mediocre opinions were exposed in the BC. Please.

But, furthermore, the rest of your post pretty much confirmed what I said. He ran a very good race despite everything not going his way. If you think cruising to the lead against High Cotton is the same as cruising to the lead against the likes of Brother Derek and Lava Man, among others, you are dramatically mistaken. You are the one that misevaluated this horse for months, said things that turned out to simply not be true, and are now acting like he wasn't himself because he was finally presented with a reasonably difficult challenge? Get real. The simple fact is he is the same good horse now that he was a month ago. He was never going to run faster if pressed, as you basically guaranteed, and he was never as good as the likes of Ghostzapper as you also claimed. Constantly suggesting horses that you were wrong about " didn't run their race " is NOT going to get you far. Ya know, even good handicappers are wrong most of the time.

I still think he was a better horse than Ghostzapper but we only got to see half of the show, as he projected to be a better 4-year-old with his pedigree and a little more seasoning. And yes, I avoided the sharks in the water like you who get off on trying to prove people wrong. Anyone who can really analyze a race whose opinions I value have all agreed that the horse didn't fire his best shot and still only got beat a length....far more nice horses didn't fire thier best shots in the race and still got beat a lot worse in the race....

Oh, and he cruised by a loose Wanderin Boy with ease last out and that horse is faster than Brother Derek FYI.....You should know that being a Zito fanatic...

Its a good thing you didn't take me up on the handicap-off last weekend as you had better done exceptionally well to win that one.....(since you had SO much to lose )

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

its on now....and yes scat daddy isnt that great...

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

its on now....and yes scat daddy isnt that great...

Your funny hooves! And yes, Scat Daddy isn't that great and I agree with Pillow Pants, no way is he around for the derby.

Originally Posted by Buffymommy

Your funny hooves! And yes, Scat Daddy isn't that great and I agree with Pillow Pants, no way is he around for the derby.

Sure he will be around for the Derby (unless he gets hurt). Look who owns him--you think they are going to pass the Derby. They already have enough graded earnings. Pletcher and Tabor have two big of egos not to run this horse in the Derby. If he is healthy, he is running.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Sure he will be around for the Derby (unless he gets hurt). Look who owns him--you think they are going to pass the Derby. They already have enough graded earnings. Pletcher and Tabor have two big of egos not to run this horse in the Derby. If he is healthy, he is running.

BTW, I think the earnings picture is going to be very interesting for the Derby next year. With the BC Juvenile purse being $2 million it puts the top four in. Now the Delta Jackpot is a G3 so that $1 million race will get 2-3 horses in. The Blue Grass could put some unexpected horses in the race if turfy 3yos point there. Not to mention that any of the top three fillies from the BC Juv Fillies would have enough earnings if they wanted to run (God I hope not). I have a feeling we could see a horse with right around $200,000 in graded stakes earnings get shut out of the field this year.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

BTW, I think the earnings picture is going to be very interesting for the Derby next year. With the BC Juvenile purse being $2 million it puts the top four in. Now the Delta Jackpot is a G3 so that $1 million race will get 2-3 horses in. The Blue Grass could put some unexpected horses in the race if turfy 3yos point there. Not to mention that any of the top three fillies from the BC Juv Fillies would have enough earnings if they wanted to run (God I hope not). I have a feeling we could see a horse with right around $200,000 in graded stakes earnings get shut out of the field this year.

I couldnt agree more. The Delta Jackpot being a Graded Race is HUGE. I will be real interested to see if that race produces any Derby horses. I love that it finally got a Graded status. I also will be wondering what major trainers are going to put their 2nd string in that race.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

BTW, I think the earnings picture is going to be very interesting for the Derby next year. With the BC Juvenile purse being $2 million it puts the top four in. Now the Delta Jackpot is a G3 so that $1 million race will get 2-3 horses in. The Blue Grass could put some unexpected horses in the race if turfy 3yos point there. Not to mention that any of the top three fillies from the BC Juv Fillies would have enough earnings if they wanted to run (God I hope not). I have a feeling we could see a horse with right around $200,000 in graded stakes earnings get shut out of the field this year.

That is interesting.

Good thing for John Ward he doesn't have any TC contendors this year.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

BTW, I think the earnings picture is going to be very interesting for the Derby next year. With the BC Juvenile purse being $2 million it puts the top four in. Now the Delta Jackpot is a G3 so that $1 million race will get 2-3 horses in. The Blue Grass could put some unexpected horses in the race if turfy 3yos point there. Not to mention that any of the top three fillies from the BC Juv Fillies would have enough earnings if they wanted to run (God I hope not). I have a feeling we could see a horse with right around $200,000 in graded stakes earnings get shut out of the field this year.

am I the only one who thinks that the graded earnings during the 3YO season should be weighted to count more than the 2YO earnings? Seems like what they did the year before is not always indicative of who should be in the race on the 1st Saturday in May.

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Sure he will be around for the Derby (unless he gets hurt). Look who owns him--you think they are going to pass the Derby. They already have enough graded earnings. Pletcher and Tabor have two big of egos not to run this horse in the Derby. If he is healthy, he is running.

OK maybe I should have said "HE SHOULDN'T BE AROUND FOR THE DERBY"

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

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No need to bait Joel... when are you going to Kee Nov?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

I still think he was a better horse than Ghostzapper but we only got to see half of the show, as he projected to be a better 4-year-old with his pedigree and a little more seasoning. And yes, I avoided the sharks in the water like you who get off on trying to prove people wrong. Anyone who can really analyze a race whose opinions I value have all agreed that the horse didn't fire his best shot and still only got beat a length....far more nice horses didn't fire thier best shots in the race and still got beat a lot worse in the race....

Oh, and he cruised by a loose Wanderin Boy with ease last out and that horse is faster than Brother Derek FYI.....You should know that being a Zito fanatic...

Its a good thing you didn't take me up on the handicap-off last weekend as you had better done exceptionally well to win that one.....(since you had SO much to lose )

You will never get it Joel, as you are so caught up in taking things personally, that you will never see what is really going on. You earned a coward's reputation because you constantly patted yourself on the back when right, your behavoir after the Champagne was appalling, and then scurried off when wrong. NOBODY knocks those who come back contrite and discuss things objectively. However, considering your past exploits, ignoring all the BC results, and then claiming " the real horses didn't show up " days later as though THAT is an intelligent dissection of the race just isn't going to suffice.

And then you make some silly Wanderin' boy-Zito reference as though ANYBODY ever believed or suggested Wanderin' Boy was in his league. That is what....a pathetic attempt to get my goat? Didn't work. Stick to the REAL issue. If you think Wanderin' Boy is a " faster horse " than Brother Derek then your opinion is even worse than I thought.

As for your final paragraph....you don't get anything do you. You have a lot to prove....not me.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You will never get it Joel, as you are so caught up in taking things personally, that you will never see what is really going on. You earned a coward's reputation because you constantly patted yourself on the back when right, your behavoir after the Champagne was appalling, and then scurried off when wrong. NOBODY knocks those who come back contrite and discuss things objectively. However, considering your past exploits, ignoring all the BC results, and then claiming " the real horses didn't show up " days later as though THAT is an intelligent dissection of the race just isn't going to suffice.

And then you make some silly Wanderin' boy-Zito reference as though ANYBODY ever believed or suggested Wanderin' Boy was in his league. That is what....a pathetic attempt to get my goat? Didn't work. Stick to the REAL issue. If you think Wanderin' Boy is a " faster horse " than Brother Derek then your opinion is even worse than I thought.

As for your final paragraph....you don't get anything do you. You have a lot to prove....not me.

Nah, nothing to prove to anyone....I have what I want in this game and I am very satisfied. I'd match my knowledge, instincts and horsemanship with yours ANYDAY of the week and I am significantly younger.....whats there to prove to a guy like you who is scared to put his money where his mouth is?....nada....just keep chirping and blowing hard about your percieved credability...

The fact is that I've still yet to meet people who have even heard of you, which says a lot to me....

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

The fact is that I've still yet to meet people who have even heard of you, which says a lot to me....

It certainly says a lot about the people you have met.

And, frankly, who cares?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

LMAO!!! Good lord, I haven't laughed all week... but that was hilarious.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

now that there is funny i don't care who you are.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It certainly says a lot about the people you have met.

And, frankly, who cares?

I don't...you were the one who ridiculously thought you were so reknowned in the industry that last week you said that "you had so much to lose and nothing to gain" by a friendly handicap-off....please

You're probably right....I don't know anyone important in this game......

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Anyone who can really analyze a race whose opinions I value have all agreed that the horse didn't fire his best shot and still only got beat a length...

Joel, this is equivalent to saying that I value the opinions of all the people who agree with me and the ones who don't agree with me don't really know how to analyze races. It doesn't prove anything other than the fact that you have tuned out a lot of very knowledgable people.