18 Reasons the Affordable Care Act Is the Greatest Achievement for the Middle Class

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Crazy thought, perhaps college isn't for everyone. Maybe if there wasn't a college for everyone, no matter the cost, people would go and learn how to do something useful as opposed to staying in school forever studying art history.
PS I am 37, didn't graduate college and own two successful business that employ 24 people.

another point i've argued. we have a real lack of tradesmen in this country. shortages of electricians, plumbers, hvac techs, auto/truck mechanics, etc. of course banks would prefer everyone go to college-student loan debt is a tremendous money maker for them.
i didn't go to college, neither did my husband. we both joined the military. he's been an electrician now for almost 30 years. i put 'career' on hold while raising three kids, but jobs i've held prepared me for the one i hold now. we both are successful, and not one hour of college. obviously some fields require it, and some people absolutely need to go-but it's not for everyone. i've hired people with degrees, fat lot of good a business degree did for many-they're a dime a dozen. and who gets hired to make a lot of money with a philosphy degree?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

another point i've argued. we have a real lack of tradesmen in this country. shortages of electricians, plumbers, hvac techs, auto/truck mechanics, etc.

Too bad the Republicans completely blocked Obama's education bill, which included getting people not only into college, but into apprentices and trade schools if they preferred.

We have massive infrastructure, construction projects that could be done now: the money to pay for them is virtually free to borrow, we have the people (unemployed) to put directly to work at this. We could drop our unemployment massively tomorrow, fix our decrepit infrastructure, at the cheapest cost possible. It's being blocked. By one political party. Gee darn.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Too bad the Republicans completely blocked Obama's education bill, which included getting people not only into college, but into apprentices and trade schools if they preferred.

We have massive infrastructure, construction projects that could be done now: the money to pay for them is virtually free to borrow, we have the people (unemployed) to put directly to work at this. We could drop our unemployment massively tomorrow, fix our decrepit infrastructure, at the cheapest cost possible. It's being blocked. By one political party. Gee darn.

Which bill was that? The one from 2010 or the one he signs on Friday?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Which bill was that? The one from 2010 or the one he signs on Friday?

Where are trade school financial supports in those bills? Where is the massive stimulus infrastructure repair/unemployment hiring bill? The first stimulus, it was agreed by nearly all economists, worked. But it was hardly enough. There's a heck of a lot more to do. We have bridges literally falling down, closed. Water pipes bursting. Streets collapsing.

Tell us in detail what is being passed Friday.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Where are trade school financial supports in those bills? Where is the massive stimulus infrastructure repair/unemployment hiring bill? The first stimulus, it was agreed by nearly all economists, worked. But it was hardly enough. There's a heck of a lot more to do. We have bridges literally falling down, closed. Water pipes bursting. Streets collapsing.

Tell us in detail what is being passed Friday.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...g-job-creation

I will leave that to the pros.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...g-job-creation

I will leave that to the pros.

It's not the massive support we need or what was recommended. It's a start, indeed, but it was watered down markedly. And the education bill doesn't do what was wanted for trade schools in the least. The desired bill had support for college, local junior college, technical school, trade school. Wish that could have been passed.

Of course, one political party thinks unions are evil, and we need less education, less teachers, and no unions, and are actively trying to destroy the same. So ...

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's not the massive support we need or what was recommended It's a start, but it was watered down markedly. And the education bill doesn't do what was wanted for trade schools in the least.

I have not seen the original and heard even less about it.