Derby replaces graded earnings with point system

[slotdirt]

The f'ing Blue Grass will produce a couple guaranteed Derby starters every year (not that this is anything new). We need more Monbas.

[jms62]

So Violence gets 10 Whole points for his Grade 2 and Grade 1 wins to close out the year. Shanghai Boobby gets 10 for winning the Juvenile. Both could have gotten as much for a 3rd in the Sunland Derby. Do those that come up with these ideas ever simulate these scenarios?

[3kings]

Originally Posted by jms62

So Violence gets 10 Whole points for his Grade 2 and Grade 1 wins to close out the year. Shanghai Boobby gets 10 for winning the Juvenile. Both could have gotten as much for a 3rd in the Sunland Derby. Do those that come up with these ideas ever simulate these scenarios?

They were trying to eliminate the free spots for races like the Delta Jackpot and other races where the horses earned all their graded earnings sprinting or as 2 year olds. In the last 10 years there were a bunch of horses in the derby gate that didn't run a lick as three year olds. Is this the perfect system, of course not. I agree it needs tweeked but I'm curious to see how it plays out.

[NTamm1215]

Poor Todd Pletcher will actually have to run his newly turned 3YOs in two graded stakes races instead of one now.

I'm also of the opinion that the system is not perfect but am interested to see how it changes where horses land in the spring.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by 3kings

They were trying to eliminate the free spots for races like the Delta Jackpot and other races where the horses earned all their graded earnings sprinting or as 2 year olds. In the last 10 years there were a bunch of horses in the derby gate that didn't run a lick as three year olds. Is this the perfect system, of course not. I agree it needs tweeked but I'm curious to see how it plays out.

I understand what they are trying to do and agree but I think it is a no brainer to give equal points to ALL graded Route races both 2 and 3 year old year.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by jms62

I understand what they are trying to do and agree but I think it is a no brainer to give equal points to ALL graded Route races both 2 and 3 year old year.

I'm for more emphasis being put on the three year old year, maybe a 3:2 ratio for points earned. I like to see these horses run against each other a few times and think they might have to how. I'm hoping the "2 race" campaign before the derby is going to be lessened.

[Cannon Shell]

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