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Old 06-01-2012, 03:09 PM
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I think through sons of In Reality, War Relic is the only tail male line still going from Man O' War.
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Old 06-03-2012, 02:00 PM
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Here was a pretty good 3-year-old who almost pulled the sweep off:



* In 1931, Twenty Grand won the Kentucky Derby by 4 lengths in the final time of 2:01 4/5.

By comparison, the 2010 and 2011 Breeders Cup Classic were both run at Churchill Downs and went in slower times of 2:02 1/5th (Blame VS Zenyatta year) and 2:04.27 (Drosselmeyer year) I'll Have Another's Derby win was 2:01 4/5ths over a souped up track.

* In 1931, Twenty Grand won the Belmont by 10 lengths in the time of 2:29 3/5ths.

The 2011 Belmont was run in 2:30.88 and the 2010 Belmont was run in 2:31.57

His Travers win was only 2:04 3/5th. The last two Travers have been run in 2:03.03 and 2:03.28. However, he did come back two weeks later and beat Hall of Famer Sun Beau by 10 lengths. The week after that he won the Lawrence Realization at 13 furlongs, and a week after that won the Jockey Club Gold Cup at 2 miles.
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Old 06-03-2012, 06:13 PM
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The two 3yo races not shown in Twenty Grand's PP's above were the Wood Memorial (he won 1st off the layoff) and the Preakness (he finished 2nd)

Judging by all written accounts -- Twenty Grand was plenty best in the Preakness and should have been a Triple Crown winner.

Here is his Preakness chart:




Here is part of the Daily Racing Form write-up saying he encountered major trouble in two different spots:







Preakness winner Mate earned over $300,000 racing in the 1930's. The equivalent of almost $5 million today. Equipoise "The Chocolate Solider" finished 4th. He returned to win all of his next seven races and bank over $338,000 in earnings.

Twenty Grand was retired to stud but proved to be sterile. He had no offspring and was never quite the same when brought back.
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