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Old 05-28-2012, 09:04 PM
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We'll just never see each other's point I guess. To me, you are saying since everyone can be drugged cheaply it is their problem if they don't use it. I'll never agree with that. If Lasix is so great, surely giving five pounds or a 50% edge in claiming prices to those not using isn't a big deal.

Drug the all Chuck, drug them all, that is the spirit.

As for Danzig's post about best for the horse, I've addressed this several times. If you want to believe this sport is about what is best for the horse, I have some prime coast land to sell you here in Oklahoma. I wish it was. I love horses. But we all know that isn't the case the majority of the time. Should I started listing more horses that were treated like disposable tissues?
You should stop falsely demonizing lasix for things it does not do. Pretending it's a hop is simply false. "What lasix does" isn't a matter of opinion, it's a matter of measured reality and science.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:06 PM
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You should stop falsely demonizing lasix for things it does not do. Pretending it's a hop is simply false. "What lasix does" isn't a matter of opinion, it's a matter of measured reality and science.
A vet said it, not me.

Drug em all, Riot, that is the ticket.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:09 PM
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A vet said it, not me.

Drug em all, Riot, that is the ticket.
Thousands of other vets say his opinion is a minority, and his views border on "crankdom".

Join those of us worrying about real drug problems in racing.

Stop chasing laser beams pointed to the wall by a few ignorant fools.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:12 PM
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Thousands of other vets say his opinion is a minority, and his views border on "crankdom".

Join those of us worrying about real drug problems in racing.

Stop chasing laser beams pointed to the wall by a few ignorant fools.
Thousands of other vets aren't being published in the New York Times. Funny, you say I should listen to vets, until they say something you don't like.

Drug them all. That has really helped the sport. The game couldn't be in better shape.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:17 PM
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Thousands of other vets aren't being published in the New York Times.
No. They are being published where their wealth of skill and knowledge about lasix matters, in research journals, pharmacology textbooks, clinical medicine applications.

Some crank wrote an opinion letter to the NYT. You're falling for it. Good luck.

You calling lasix, "drug them all" simply reveals that you remain completely ignorant about furosemide and it's long and successful in horses (and dogs, cats, people, tigers, bears, primates, etc)
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You calling lasix, "drug them all" simply reveals that you remain completely ignorant about furosemide and it's long and successful in horses (and dogs, cats, people, tigers, bears, primates, etc)
It is a drug, right?

Dogs, cats, people, tigers, bears, and primates and even etc. aren't being given Lasix to race while people bet millions of dollars on them. In this case, we even found out California lies to us about which horses actually get Lasix and which don't. That will go a long way to establishing trust with bettors.

Drug them all.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:23 PM
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It is a drug, right?

Dogs, cats, people, tigers, bears, and primates and even etc. aren't being given Lasix to race while people bet millions of dollars on them. In this case, we even found out California lies to us about which horses actually get Lasix and which don't. That will go a long way to establishing trust with bettors.

Drug them all.
No. They are being given lasix most usually to save their lives.

That knowledge and understanding separates those that are licensed to use and dispense legend drugs - doctors, pharmacists, veterinarians, etc. - and the guy at the end of the bar stool expounding upon how much he knows about lasix because he read a NYT opinion piece that confirmed what he's determined to think.
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