Ok I Have Had Enough

Danzig · #1 11-06-2006, 06:49 PM

better enjoy all the post-race analysis while you can...bound to get dead around here soon enough with a dearth of racing in the forecast.

the usual late fall/winter semi-hiatus is the reason for my 'signature'.

pmayjr · #2 11-06-2006, 07:05 PM

I'm still fascinated that you guys can't make do with a bunch of 5kN2L races until Gulfstrean starts up. Mountaineer, Hoosier, Chuck-town... those are where I thrive.

Al I'm gonna say about 'Dini. It had nothin to do with heart or lack there-of. He looked pretty f'n impressive for 9/10s of that race before Invasor came barreling home. He was just better, Heart had nothin to do with it. I could run with all my heart vs Car Lewis in the 100 yard dash, but I won't ever beat him. Sometimes the other competitor is just better. Bring on Discreet Cat.

ateamstupid · #3 11-06-2006, 07:10 PM

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Al I'm gonna say about 'Dini. It had nothin to do with heart or lack there-of. He looked pretty f'n impressive for 9/10s of that race before Invasor came barreling home. He was just better, Heart had nothin to do with it. I could run with all my heart vs Car Lewis in the 100 yard dash, but I won't ever beat him. Sometimes the other competitor is just better. Bring on Discreet Cat.

Thank you. Anyone who is saying anything about Bernardini losing due to a lack of heart should be shot.

Danzig · #4 11-06-2006, 07:16 PM

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Thank you. Anyone who is saying anything about Bernardini losing due to a lack of heart should be shot.

overkill, dont' you think?
that's as bad as hutchinsons pal down here saying if you aren't a razorback fan you're a communist. apparently i was unaware that i was a commie. glad it's been set straight for me.

#5 11-06-2006, 07:28 PM

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overkill, dont' you think?
that's as bad as hutchinsons pal down here saying if you aren't a razorback fan you're a communist. apparently i was unaware that i was a commie. glad it's been set straight for me.

Well hes either got no heart or hes nowhere near as good as Invasor is or as good as everyone said he was, its gotta be one or the other.
Know who oughta be shot? Anyone who ever dared compare him to Ghostzapper.
Ghostzapper would have urinated on him and left him a mile behind. I saw Ghostzapper, and Bernadini is no Ghostzapper.

Danzig · #6 11-06-2006, 07:31 PM

he was good, pretty good. but not a freak or a superhorse. he was not as bad as some are now saying, certainly not as good as others claimed he was...as for GZ, apparently those were the good old days, when a horse ran more than one year.

ateamstupid · #7 11-06-2006, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

he was good, pretty good. but not a freak or a superhorse. he was not as bad as some are now saying, certainly not as good as others claimed he was...as for GZ, apparently those were the good old days, when a horse ran more than one year.

Unbelievable.

When Ghostzapper was around, all anybody could do was bitch and whine about how he only ran four or five races a year. Now those are the good old days.

ateamstupid · #8 11-06-2006, 07:32 PM

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Well hes either got no heart or hes nowhere near as good as Invasor is or as good as everyone said he was, its gotta be one or the other.
No who oughta be shot? Anyone who ever dared compare him to Ghostzapper.
Ghostzapper would have urinated on him and left him a mile behind. I saw Ghostzapper, and Bernadini is no Ghostzapper.

I also saw Bluegrass Cat and all the other rats you said would beat Bernardini, and they're no Bernardini.

So let me get this straight, because he lost by A LENGTH to Invasor, he's "nowhere near as good as Invasor"? Hmm..

2Hot4TV · #9 11-06-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I also saw Bluegrass Cat and all the other rats you said would beat Bernardini, and they're no Bernardini.

So let me get this straight, because he lost by A LENGTH to Invasor, he's "nowhere near as good as Invasor"? Hmm..

The way I saw the race was the Bernardini got BEAT a lenght and that was with Invasor giving him 4 pounds.

31lengths · #10 11-06-2006, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I also saw Bluegrass Cat and all the other rats you said would beat Bernardini, and they're no Bernardini.

So let me get this straight, because he lost by A LENGTH to Invasor, he's "nowhere near as good as Invasor"? Hmm..

Sounds like Bernardini is the only horse that ever lost a race....

Revolution · #11 11-06-2006, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Well hes either got no heart or hes nowhere near as good as Invasor is or as good as everyone said he was, its gotta be one or the other.
Know who oughta be shot? Anyone who ever dared compare him to Ghostzapper.
Ghostzapper would have urinated on him and left him a mile behind. I saw Ghostzapper, and Bernadini is no Ghostzapper.

You are right. Bernardini raced more than 2.6x in a year and was a 3yr old. Ghostzapper is the most overrated horse in the last decade. The horse had a grand total of 1 win at 10f or longer in an entire career. 3 at 9f or longer. Wow. That is great. A career with 3 wins at 9f or longer.

In 4 seasons Ghostzapper raced 11 times. What a champion. LOL.

#12 11-06-2006, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

overkill, dont' you think?
that's as bad as hutchinsons pal down here saying if you aren't a razorback fan you're a communist. apparently i was unaware that i was a commie. glad it's been set straight for me.

Zieg I'm just catching up on the board now but this is a stone cold riot!!! LOL!!!
I'm reading all these posts by delusional people who are explaining like he didn't really lose or that hes still just as good as advertised, and then they are getting mad at folks telling it like it is?
Lemme see if I got this figured out Zieg, apparently Bern is still just as good as Spectacular Bid or Ghostzapper, so I guess that makes Invasor a real life version of the fabled Pegasus, the horse with wings who could fly.
This is absolutely the funniest thing I ever saw in my life, truly.
Fact is he wasn't even Barbaro, and had Barbaro not been injured he would have bitch slapped him as well.
Invasor will now forever me my favorite horse of all time, replacing Personal Ensign, for had it not been for Invasor we'd have listen to delusinal rantings about this "best horse who ever looked through a bridle" for years.

Danzig · #13 11-06-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Zieg I'm just catching up on the board now but this is a stone cold riot!!! LOL!!!
I'm reading all these posts by delusional people who are explaining like he didn't really lose or that hes still just as good as advertised, and then they are getting mad at folks telling it like it is?
Lemme see if I got this figured out Zieg, apparently Bern is still just as good as Spectacular Bid or Ghostzapper, so I guess that makes Invasor a real life version of the fabled Pegasus, the horse with wings who could fly.
This is absolutely the funniest thing I ever saw in my life, truly.
Fact is he wasn't even Barbaro, and had Barbaro not been injured he would have bitch slapped him as well.
Invasor will now forever me my favorite horse of all time, replacing Personal Ensign, for had it not been for Invasor we'd have listen to delusinal rantings about this "best horse who ever looked through a bridle" for years.

no, the funniest argument i've seen so far is that the beyers are a fraud. that bernardini didn't run his usual race...it's all a big conspiracy. bernardini ran his usual race, which was good--but the competition this time was better--a LOT better. puts bernardinis year into perspective. i really feel better now about all the sh!t i took all year about 'not being a fan' when i said wait til he's done. well, he's done, and he's as good as i thought he was. and not as great as others thought.

#14 11-06-2006, 07:45 PM

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no, the funniest argument i've seen so far is that the beyers are a fraud. that bernardini didn't run his usual race...it's all a big conspiracy. bernardini ran his usual race, which was good--but the competition this time was better--a LOT better. puts bernardinis year into perspective. i really feel better now about all the sh!t i took all year about 'not being a fan' when i said wait til he's done. well, he's done, and he's as good as i thought he was. and not as great as others thought.

Lee Harvey Oswald made the beyer figures, lol.
I tried to tell everyone, and posted it one thousand times, but noone gets it or at least very few get it.
Ragozin did a study years ago, found horses ALWAYS ran their lifetime best numbers in "easy wins". The whole fallacy(cough cough Eurobounce, revolution, Betsy, ahem) that a horse who wins with no pressure could go faster is exactly that, a total fallacy. Its a lot harder to run fast when someone gets in your face. And I personally don't think that him not being as good as Invasor is the only issue, he didn't even offer token resistance when eyeballed, he surrendered in a fashion that would make even the French Army proud. I predicted he was a bully who when eyeballed would fold all year long, and I posted it a thousand times. He got eyeballed, and he didn't even try to fight back.

timmgirvan · #15 11-06-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

better enjoy all the post-race analysis while you can...bound to get dead around here soon enough with a dearth of racing in the forecast.

the usual late fall/winter semi-hiatus is the reason for my 'signature'.

Sheeesh,Girl...I thought you were getting political on me!