NYTHA Lasix Primer & Letter to NYS RWB

[Danzig]

but like i said, come up with a way to detect who will bleed and the problem is solved.
if it's not harmful, what's the problem? if there's an alternative to lasix to prevent bleeding, present it.

otherwise right now it appears people want to ban it just to say it's been banned.
what about the horse who needs it, or may need it? are we to just cross our fingers and hope horses don't bleed? and some will, what then? people want horses to race longer, constantly decrying early retirements. but older horses become more prone to episodes, what then?


to say just get rid of it is not enough. it's not a solution, other than to say 'ta da, we don't have race day meds'. is that more important than making sure there aren't medical issues? i think this 'cure' is worse than the 'disease'.

if it doesn't cause harm, doesn't enhance performance, and doesn't mask drugs, what's the problem? what potentially costs more, using it, or not using it and having to deal with eiph?


what's best for the horses?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Danzig

if it's not harmful, what's the problem? if there's an alternative to lasix to prevent bleeding, present it.

Nasal strips have been shown to be just as effective. Riot's answer is that she would use both. Yeah, sure, that makes sense. Pay twice for the same effect. Chuck's answer was "the darn things just don't stick too good." Seemed to stick fine on the Derby winner.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Nasal strips have been shown to be just as effective. Riot's answer is that she would use both. Yeah, sure, that makes sense. Pay twice for the same effect. Chuck's answer was "the darn things just don't stick too good." Seemed to stick fine on the Derby winner.

They are not the same "effect". They work on opposite sides of the physical location of the bleeding. Lasix and FLAIR complement, not duplicate.

Furosemide works by attenuating the exercise-induced rise in pulmonary intracapillary pressure on the capillary walls at the alveolar interface, and decreasing plasma volume; and FLAIR strips lower the tearing effect of negative pulmonary airway pressures during inspiration.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Nasal strips have been shown to be just as effective. Riot's answer is that she would use both. Yeah, sure, that makes sense. Pay twice for the same effect. Chuck's answer was "the darn things just don't stick too good." Seemed to stick fine on the Derby winner.

i'd rather use something i know i won't have to worry about sticking.

did i'll have another run on lasix?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'd rather use something i know i won't have to worry about sticking.

did i'll have another run on lasix?

You'd rather drug a horse than use something that might come undone one in 100 times? You act as though Lasix is 100% effective.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

You'd rather drug a horse than use something that might come undone one in 100 times? You act as though Lasix is 100% effective.

you mean use a drug that you said doesn't cause harm? sure. if there's no harm, why wouldn't you?


again, what is best for the horse?