Interesting Development In California

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

Seriously...I don't even know what Stauffer wrote in his letter. If he directly asked them to reconsider the hiring of Wrona and used Wrona's name then it's pretty unprofessional. If he wrote a letter asking to be considered for a job as a general inquiry...then it's much to do about nothing. But without the actual letter...who knows?

I think Wrona does a great job calling races and would guess the Fairs would be more than happy to keep him on.

You do realize the actual letter is part of the public record in the link posted in the initial thread, right? bwahaha

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

You do realize the actual letter is part of the public record in the link posted in the initial thread, right? bwahaha

I clicked on the link: http://www.sonomacountyfair.com/docs/febrace.pdf

I don't see any letter, so my only point was did he call Wrona out or was he inquiring about a job. One is classless, the other...who cares? Instead of the bwahaha...maybe you can import those smileys rolling on the ground you love so much.

[Oaklawnfan]

I thought we applauded someone for aggressively pursuing their craft and career providing it does not entail hurting or falsely attacking their competitor?

[cmorioles]

Try this:

http://sonomacountyfair.com/docs/febagenda.pdf

[Antitrust32]

maybe I'm blind... but I didn't see the name Michael Wrona once in Vic's letter. Please someone point it out if I am wrong.

I don't see anything wrong with the letter Vic wrote.. except for the grammar. It looked more like a goofy email than a professional letter.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

maybe I'm blind... but I didn't see the name Michael Wrona once in Vic's letter. Please someone point it out if I am wrong.

I don't see anything wrong with the letter Vic wrote.. except for the grammar. It looked more like a goofy email than a professional letter.

Vic is always talking about some announcer brotherhood, or something to that effect. Why does the name have to be in his letter? He is clearly trying to get a job that someone else already has. Good for him, but I just hope it ends some of the other crap he has spouted around the internet.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Vic is always talking about some announcer brotherhood, or something to that effect. Why does the name have to be in his letter? He is clearly trying to get a job that someone else already has. Good for him, but I just hope it ends some of the other crap he has spouted around the internet.

because, to me at least, it just seemed like Vic wrote a passionate and poorly punctuated letter about how much the Fair means to him, and that he really wants to call the races there again. He also pointed out ways he can help the fair.

there was nothing malicious in the letter. not one bad word about Wrona. Obviously, the end result would be Wrona losing the job if Vic was able to convince the racing officials. But I just don't see anything wrong with Vic's letter and him wanting to show the board how he feels.

Now, if Vic had thrown in a few words bashing Wrona, it would change my opinion and I'd have found the letter to be tasteless. But that's not the case.

If Wrona has already been hired to call the races in 2012, then there is no reason for that decision to be changed. Vic's fault as he waited too long to get the job, and seems to have stepped on the toes of some people in 2011, but I still see absolutely no problem with the content of the letter Vic wrote, and maybe in the future it could help him get the announcer job back there.

I know nothing about any announcer codes. I read the Vic threads but don't remember details.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

because, to me at least, it just seemed like Vic wrote a passionate and poorly punctuated letter about how much the Fair means to him, and that he really wants to call the races there again. He also pointed out ways he can help the fair.

there was nothing malicious in the letter. not one bad word about Wrona. Obviously, the end result would be Wrona losing the job if Vic was able to convince the racing officials. But I just don't see anything wrong with Vic's letter and him wanting to show the board how he feels.

Now, if Vic had thrown in a few words bashing Wrona, it would change my opinion and I'd have found the letter to be tasteless. But that's not the case.

If Wrona has already been hired to call the races in 2012, then there is no reason for that decision to be changed. Vic's fault as he waited too long to get the job, and seems to have stepped on the toes of some people in 2011, but I still see absolutely no problem with the content of the letter Vic wrote, and maybe in the future it could help him get the announcer job back there.

I know nothing about any announcer codes. I read the Vic threads but don't remember details.

Let's do the math here. Wrona has the job. Vic is trying to get the job. If Vic were to be successful, it would mean Wrona will have lost the job.

You think that's okay?

Would your opinion be the same if the roles were reversed and Wrona wrote a letter to Hollywood Park trying to get his old job back?

[pointman]

The problem as I see it is the timing of the letter, in reading the minutes it seems pretty clear that Wrona had already been hired for the job about a month earlier. The letter should have been submitted at a time when the committee was considering who to hire, not after they actually awarded the job to someone. I doubt anyone has a problem with someone applying for a job that is taking applications, it is the arrogance of asking the committee to fire a person they just hired which is made more ironic by his own admission that he had previously committed to the fair and screwed them by backing out for his own admitted selfish reasons.

It is odd to me that he talks about his regret of throwing someone under the bus when he backed out previously, yet has no problem throwing the person whose job he is seeking to take under the bus now. Seems desperate and cut-throat to me personally.