This is wrong...

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by FGFan

Yes I know that and the nom forms have been out as long too.
I've been looking around because I really don't get why this weight became an issue, it is restricted to fillies and mares she's not taking on the boys.

I glance at the condition books but don't read them in detail, so perhaps I'm not understanding something.

I looked at both nom forms for the Azeri and NO Ladies
Azeri is 122 with weight drops for NON-Winners at certain distances which is normal.
NO Ladies is 123 with the same above, normal conditions.
Then the Azeri form says see reverse side for additional info but you can't look at that.
NO Ladies doesn't add any info on reverse.
So as I see it her last race out she won 300K in the in the BC classic, 210K in the Beldame and 450K in the Woodward, with a 4th last out, then prior 1st and 1st. And she carried 123 in the BC classic and the Woodward.

Where did her connections get that she would only carry 117 in the Azeri, while she was a non-winner it says non-winner of 60K. That's what started this whole thing,that she was going to get less weight in the Azeri. Am I reading something wrong?

Didn't bother with the Azeri, but in the Fair Grounds race, the conditions have a date contigency (ie non-winners since Dec. 17). Therefore, as she hasn't raced since November, she's allowed 6 lbs.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Didn't bother with the Azeri, but in the Fair Grounds race, the conditions have a date contigency (ie non-winners since Dec. 17). Therefore, as she hasn't raced since November, she's allowed 6 lbs.

Thanks.
I don't usually pay a lot of attention to weight unless it's high or low, so I was not reading it correctly. I thought they actually had to have run during those prescribed dates, and if they didn't run they carried high.

The purse money I get, this weight thing is just not good on a horse like Havre De Grace.
I'm still happy that I get to see her run in person. It was fun to see Rachel Alexandra in person, even in loss.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by FGFan

I'm still happy that I get to see her run in person. It was fun to see Rachel Alexandra in person, even in loss.

I understand your point, but to be frank, Havre De Grace's entire bloated reputation is dependant on Rick Porter's opportunistic decision to run in the Woodward last year.

Beating Flat Out made all the difference between her being remembered as a HOY instead of a really good horse that finished second (or worse) in her most important starts.

Unless Porter continues to be successful tailoring the races she runs in with racing secretaries across the country, she will fall back down to earth as soon as she enters a race of any significance.