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Old 02-23-2012, 01:59 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDiQg...layer_embedded

Watch the video above. The guy in the white shirt is Republican Rep. Joel Kleefisch, aka Mr. Rebecca Kleefisch (he's the husband of the Republican Lt. Governor).

Watch as Rep. Kleefisch votes on a matter. Then, watch has he votes twice more, using the voting buttons of absent legislators.

Oh, yeah: and Rep. Kleefisch voted for stronger voter ID laws in Wisconsin. Seems the State Assembly needs some Voter ID, too, to prevent reps falsely voting as other reps.

This is absolutely a disgusting perversion of the democratic process.
"The rule says you have to be present in the chamber. The bathroom counts as the chamber. And the parlor counts as a chamber if you are going to eat," said Joel Kleefisch.

In fact, Representative Jason Fields says it happens all the time with both sides -- Democrats and Republicans.

"Yeah, it's done when you have a conversation with your seat mate to know where they are at," said Rep. Fields.


Both lawmakers claim it's not breaking the rules, because technically the representative is still in the chamber.

http://www.todaystmj4.com/features/iteam/140096183.html

Keep trying. Something will stick eventually.

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Old 02-23-2012, 07:01 PM
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LMAO - you guys will try and explain away anything. If these were Democrats doing it, your heads would be exploding in anger

Intrade: Will Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker be recalled first, or be indicted first?
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Old 02-24-2012, 12:38 PM
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Cool local election this week and shocker people brought ids!

You and your rant about the voter id is a complete and absurd joke. They just had local elections this week and guess what, it ran smoothly. Can you believe it voters actually brought their ids so they could vote! Its not discrimatory and is a good idea. Like someone said in the local paper "I need an id when I go to a bank or to get in a bar whats the big deal about having to show it when you vote." It works just like walker is doing a good job in wisconsin. Do us a favor and stay out of wisconsin politics. Its bad enough that obama is apologizing to afghans for burning some religious items! You never would have heard reagan say a word! Comeon obama!
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:10 PM
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You and your rant about the voter id is a complete and absurd joke. They just had local elections this week and guess what, it ran smoothly. Can you believe it voters actually brought their ids so they could vote! Its not discrimatory and is a good idea. Like someone said in the local paper "I need an id when I go to a bank or to get in a bar whats the big deal about having to show it when you vote." It works just like walker is doing a good job in wisconsin. Do us a favor and stay out of wisconsin politics. Its bad enough that obama is apologizing to afghans for burning some religious items! You never would have heard reagan say a word! Comeon obama!
You don't have a Constitutionally guaranteed right to a bank account or an alcoholic drink, that's the big deal. That person quoted in the local paper clearly didn't pay attention in Social Studies.

The right to vote is just that, a right. It's not a privilege; it's a right guaranteed to all Americans 18 and older. Anything that makes voting harder, including obtaining a picture ID, violates that right.
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:42 PM
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it's not guaranteed to all, and you can lose that right-felons for instance.

i have to provide paperwork to buy my constitutionally guaranteed right to own firearm.
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it's not guaranteed to all, and you can lose that right-felons for instance.

i have to provide paperwork to buy my constitutionally guaranteed right to own firearm.


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Old 02-27-2012, 01:36 PM
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Cool your nuts!

Face it, it really is very simple to show an id. Also you can get a free id. It is not discrimanatory. Get off your high horse! As for the person voting for other senators, it was in the madison paper editorial, that both sides do it, yes even the democrats. What a shock! Walker will win this dumbass recall. He's doing a good job and is reducing the deficit that he inherited from a governor who just ignored and spent money like its monopoly money!
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it's not guaranteed to all, and you can lose that right-felons for instance.

i have to provide paperwork to buy my constitutionally guaranteed right to own firearm.
You also have to fill out paperwork in order to register to vote. Kind of like when you purchase a gun. Now, if you had to present your gun license to a Game Services Official each time you wanted to fire it, in order to be allowed to fire it, the comparison might be more accurate.

Taking away felons' right to vote (in some cases, even after they've served their sentence) came into existence post Civil War, in the South. It was just another way to keep blacks from voting. One some states continue to use today.
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You also have to fill out paperwork in order to register to vote. Kind of like when you purchase a gun. Now, if you had to present your gun license to a Game Services Official each time you wanted to fire it, in order to be allowed to fire it, the parallel might fit better.

Taking away felons' right to vote (in some cases, even after they've served their sentence) came into existence post Civil War, in the South. It was just another way to keep blacks from voting. One some states continue to use today.

can't help but wonder if that's far off. as for voting and id, i think the arguments against it are ridiculous. i don't know how anyone over the age of 18 could get by without an id-it's used for so many things these days. and i can't think of many things more important to protect than voting, and making sure it's free as possible from fraud.
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You and your rant about the voter id is a complete and absurd joke. They just had local elections this week and guess what, it ran smoothly. Can you believe it voters actually brought their ids so they could vote!
How many people were turned away, or didn't go because they have no id?

Yeah. Get back to me after 5 million voters nationally are disinfranchised. You didn't see it, so it didn't happen.
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LMAO - you guys will try and explain away anything. If these were Democrats doing it, your heads would be exploding in anger ?
Ignoring the fact 'it happens all the time' and you're the only one exploding?

^^^A textbook example of ignorance being bliss.
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:06 PM
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Ignoring the fact 'it happens all the time' and you're the only one exploding?

^^^A textbook example of ignorance being bliss.
LOL ... I'm hardly the "only one". Considering the Republicans are down to a margin of 1 vote for passing their agenda, one man making sure three Republican votes are cast hardly surprises.

The number of dissatisfied will be measured at Walker's recall. And the recall of his Lt. Gov, and the four assemblymen.
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