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11-03-2006, 02:08 PM
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well, after reading the article....i'd hate to have such charges levelled at me, and unless and until there is absolute PROOF, than no way should anyone level any accusations, or condemn this man.
put yourself in his shoes--what if this guy Jones (and his credibility would absolutely be questionable) said this about you? what if it was false, that he is indeed attacking this guy due to his stance about same sex marriage? of course anyone who puts themself out there as an absolutely moral person, almost a 'saint', they have a very difficult row to hoe, as any mis-step can lead to just this type of situation. very often you find the truth lies somewhere between one mans accusal, and the other mans rebuttal. my take personally--any behavior between consenting ADULTS is no one else's business but their's!!! 
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11-03-2006, 02:32 PM
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11-03-2006, 03:02 PM
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just read an update (within last hour) that haggard 'fessed up to buying meth, and receiving a massage.
buying meth is between him, his wife and the cops i suppose--altho there is a constitutional right regarding self-incrimination.... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061103/...allegations_35 hey, if it worked for bill 'i smoked marijuana but didn't inhale' clinton, than i guess you can buy 'i bought it but threw it away'....
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11-03-2006, 04:56 PM
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I'm not really sure to make of this.
Is it about Foley's take on "no child's behind left un-tried"? Or is it that the gays that are opposed to "gay marriage" got caught with their pants down and their drug buy (remember "war on drugs?). This is just too confusing. Is Geddbya gay too? Cheney has already shown that he's reckless with his "gun". Maybe the "right wingers" can explain. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=6430392
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11-03-2006, 05:05 PM
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11-03-2006, 05:08 PM
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Just because a guy is gay, it doesn't mean he has to be in favor of gay marriage. LOL.
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11-03-2006, 05:14 PM
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oh, good point! hell, lots of heterosexuals are very much against marriage!!
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11-03-2006, 05:12 PM
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this is what happens when someone sets themself up on an incredibly high pedestal, the fall from grace is that much more spectacular.
but as they say, those who are the most homophobic, the most outspoken against gays, many times have homosexual tendencies--and the struggle against their feelings fuels their hatred--and is often times self-hatred. thing is, when it comes down to it, it's no one's business but his and his wifes. but of course you'd expect a preacher to live up to what he preaches, but the world has its fair share of hypocrites. he judged others, now i suppose it's his turn.
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11-03-2006, 05:27 PM
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This is a murky area..but I'll trudge on in....I believe this man was elected to the pedestal,and I think the second line is a reach...the world is full of people that hate themselves because their looks aren't just so,or life has not been kind....young people(and old)substituting drugs and sex and booze to take the 'edge' off reality as they see it! The mode of destruction is a choice,just look at our friend Kent. Ethics are seen as outdated,and for the simple-minded. I don't know of this mans' personal demons,but the whole thing is a mess for all involved.
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11-03-2006, 05:15 PM
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11-03-2006, 05:29 PM
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