2/18-20 (SA): Santa Maria; San Vincente; Buena Vista (G2's)

[blackthroatedwind]

Getting away, for only a second hopefully, from the idiocy of dismissing a group of horses simply because of their location ( hard to get much more indefensible than that ), that was some performance by Creative Cause. It's easy to say that he was simply running against weak horses last year, and clearly many more talented horses have emerged out West in the last two or three months, but at some point it also doesn't say a lot about the BC Juvenile. Maybe Union Rags really was four lengths best given his wide trip, but he really needs to prove it this year, else that whole bunch may be very suspect.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Getting away, for only a second hopefully, from the idiocy of dismissing a group of horses simply because of their location ( hard to get much more indefensible than that ), that was some performance by Creative Cause. It's easy to say that he was simply running against weak horses last year, and clearly many more talented horses have emerged out West in the last two or three months, but at some point it also doesn't say a lot about the BC Juvenile. Maybe Union Rags really was four lengths best given his wide trip, but he really needs to prove it this year, else that whole bunch may be very suspect.

What?
Are you tossing Hansen after a 1 turn prep race, where had a troubled start?
We all know horses that win, or run very well, in the BC USUALLY need a race when starting the next season.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

What?
Are you tossing Hansen after a 1 turn prep race, where had a troubled start?
We all know horses that win, or run very well, in the BC USUALLY need a race when starting the next season.

I think Hansen could be tough in the Kings Bishop. He was never a KY Derby contender.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think Hansen could be tough in the Kings Bishop. He was never a KY Derby contender.

No way Hansen is getting the 10f at Churchill in the Derby.
At Santa Anita this Fall...possibly.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

but at some point it also doesn't say a lot about the BC Juvenile.

Ironically, only the 10th (Drill), 11th (Alpha), and 13th (Prospective) -place finishers have gone on to win anything of note since that race.

I hope Aidan O'Brien takes notice of this with 12th-place finisher, Daddy Long Legs. Scat Daddy is hot right now, too.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Ironically, only the 10th (Drill), 11th (Alpha), and 13th (Prospective) -place finishers have gone on to win anything of note since that race.

I hope Aidan O'Brien takes notice of this with 12th-place finisher, Daddy Long Legs. Scat Daddy is hot right now, too.

Drill hasn't done anything to make me take notice and Alpha's BC was a toss. It's also not clear he's that good either.

[LARHAGE]

It's hard to gauge anything on that track right now, speed just doesn't seem to be coming back, American Act came on again after losing the lead, granted it was on the gutless Drill but it's like running in quicksand trying to close, Creative Cause also wasn't liking the whip and was swapping leads down the stretch.