2/18-20 (SA): Santa Maria; San Vincente; Buena Vista (G2's)

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by jms62

Hey Dude... I love guys like you...

Thanks, brah.

Dead money Derby day.. Keep betting based upon the product 20 years ago...You and John White... Winner won't come out of Southwest tommorow

So Arkansas is irrelevant now, too?

By the way, who said anything about having to select the winner of the Kentucky Derby? You said that CA horses were irrelevant with regards to the Derby Trail. It was an ignorant line.

MOST CERTAINLY WON'T COME OUT OF THE DEUCE THEY ARE FEEDING US FROM CALI.

Whatever. You laugh at my alleged method of betting the Derby, and yet, here you are in fucl<ing February writing off horses from about 4 or 5 signficant graded stakes (3 of which haven't even been run yet) just because CA racing on a whole is in the dumps. Only a complete dolt would employ that strategy. Call it Dead-brain money on Derby Day. The San Vicente isn't the only 3yo race in CA.

You just have a hard-on for CA racing. I get it, brah. But don't be confused. Love yourself.

I am just looking for Preps to bet and the SH*T you are giving us in So-Cal is certainly not it. So if Secret Circle doesn't prep in Cali going forward do you claim him as a Cali Horse?

Secret Circle trains at Santa Anita, Copernicus. The only reason he's at Oaklawn is because his trainer is so inundated with well-meant 3yos that he has to ship them around. So long as operations like Baffert's call CA home, it will always be relevant on the Derby Trail.

Now go ahead, keep backpedaling and spewing about "product" and Jon White and whatever else you think you need to pile on to cover up your silly initial statement.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Thanks, brah.


So Arkansas is irrelevant now, too?

By the way, who said anything about having to select the winner of the Kentucky Derby? You said that CA horses were irrelevant with regards to the Derby Trail. It was an ignorant line.


Whatever. You laugh at my alleged method of betting the Derby, and yet, here you are in fucl<ing February writing off horses from about 4 or 5 signficant graded stakes (3 of which haven't even been run yet) just because CA racing on a whole is in the dumps. Only a complete dolt would employ that strategy. Call it Dead-brain money on Derby Day. The San Vicente isn't the only 3yo race in CA.

You just have a hard-on for CA racing. I get it, brah. But don't be confused. Love yourself.


Secret Circle trains at Santa Anita, Copernicus. The only reason he's at Oaklawn is because his trainer is so inundated with well-meant 3yos that he has to ship them around. So long as operations like Baffert's call CA home, it will always be relevant on the Derby Trail.

Now go ahead, keep backpedaling and spewing about "product" and Jon White and whatever else you think you need to pile on to cover up your silly initial statement.

You needed to post twice?

Sham= 5 Starters
Lewis =8 Starters (Adequate)

[jms62]

Originally Posted by jms62

You needed to post twice?

Sham= 5 Starters
Lewis =8 Starters (Adequate)

And as far as my silly initial post, yeah I got carried away dismissing the Cali product based upon the Sh*it preps they have given us this year... My Bad. But what about you defending the product by going back to Giacamo? Beyond Silly. You produced that list pretty fast, you an insider out there? I have an idea for you make your weakness your strength... Give us the battle of the Ex's Derby Prep that way you only need to line up 2.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by jms62

And as far as my silly initial post, yeah I got carried away dismissing the Cali product based upon the Sh*it preps they have given us this year... My Bad.

Why don't you simply clarify what you mean instead of the jackass macho head games? A couple of the CA Derby preps were apparently Sh!t because they had small fields. I guess this means they were unbettable (never mind that Out Of Bounds paid out at 10-1 and Drill nearly 4-1).

However, they certainly were relevant and will continue to be so, because they will invariably feature top class prospects.

But what about you defending the product by going back to Giacamo? Beyond Silly.

Giacomo was what, 6 years ago? Talk about a fair weather fan. And, once again, I was not "defending the product". I was simply pointing out all the CA-based horses in the last decade (I know, I know, that's ancient history) that were, in fact, "relevant" on the Derby trail.

You produced that list pretty fast, you an insider out there?

I produced the list quickly because I follow horse racing. Do you?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Why don't you simply clarify what you mean instead of the jackass macho head games? A couple of the CA Derby preps were apparently Sh!t because they had small fields. I guess this means they were unbettable (never mind that Out Of Bounds paid out at 10-1 and Drill nearly 4-1).

However, they certainly were relevant and will continue to be so, because they will invariably feature top class prospects.


Giacomo was what, 6 years ago? Talk about a fair weather fan. And, once again, I was not "defending the product". I was simply pointing out all the CA-based horses in the last decade (I know, I know, that's ancient history) that were, in fact, "relevant" on the Derby trail.


I produced the list quickly because I follow horse racing. Do you?

Sorry.. Unbettable Sh*t. Is that clear enough. For the last 7 years my most profitable segment is Derby Prep Super plays and if I can't get 8 horses in the gate the race is unplayable so that is my baseline.

As far as being a fan, I am a consumer of the markets put forward by tracks and what I've been getting from Santa Anita is not playable. And by the
way I post my plays on the selection thread for all to see.. I don't stay in the safety of the Paddock pontificating. And as of right now I fuking LOVE Baffert.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by jms62

As far as being a fan, I am a consumer of the markets put forward by tracks and what I've been getting from Santa Anita is not playable. And by the
way I post my plays on the selection thread for all to see.. I don't stay in the safety of the Paddock pontificating.

It's Cutler versus Powers all over again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns6YSvCsVJM

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by jms62

You needed to post twice?

Sham= 5 Starters
Lewis =8 Starters (Adequate)

Yep, more backpedaling. Again, you said CA was irrelevant. Well, that 5-horse Sham just produced the winner of the Southwest.

And, of course, a CA horse won the other division as well.

Too bad they split the race. Now you have to insert both feet into mouth.