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Old 02-16-2012, 03:11 PM
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The above isn't the legal language of the settlement, it's the same summary that is listed on the settlement website and news articles.

You might ask the Governor's Attorney General, who was specially consulted to see if the Governor can take the money and use it outside of what is listed, and who is, aside from the Governor, the only one in the state government saying, "yes, I think it would be legal".

That Walker had to ask his Attorney General - and is NOT consulting the legislature or any other legal advice - shows Walker clearly knows his taking the money is outside the settlement use intentions.

But he has the Koch Brothers American's for Prosperity playing hundreds of thousands of dollars of ads saying Walker balanced the budget, and Walker knows that's a lie, and he has a $140 million deficit - so he's grabbing some of this money to try and cover his tracks before his recall election.

And that is why there is a lawsuit being filed against the Gov and Attorney General for it, on behalf of the citizens of Wisconsin. Because the Governor and Attorney General are beyond the accepted use of the monies, using it to pay off last year's bills, and NOT for housing-related city troubles.
Has the actual settlement even been released yet? I am not finding it anywhere. Plenty of summaries though. If you have a copy of the doc and any applications etc, I would like to see them and what the legal wording looks like.
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Old 02-16-2012, 04:10 PM
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Didn't think so.
Forgive me for not being on the list at your beck and call in the past half hour. See above.
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Forgive me for not being on the list at your beck and call in the past half hour. See above.
Same summary Wiphan quotes, everyone has read this. You however referenced the exact legal language of the settlement, was hoping to see where you were able to read that.
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Same summary Wiphan quotes, everyone has read this. You however referenced the exact legal language of the settlement, was hoping to see where you were able to read that.
No, I referenced that the language YOU were making your determination from was not the exact legal language of the settlement.

My point: Don't jump the gun, and say that the published language makes Walker's use legal, because that's not the legal language.

It's been 10 days, and there are 49 states that have to return papers before they can publish it, and now you have the site where you can read it.
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Old 02-16-2012, 04:54 PM
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No, I referenced that the language YOU were making your determination from was not the exact legal language of the settlement.

My point: Don't jump the gun, and say that the published language makes Walker's use legal, because that's not the legal language.

It's been 10 days, and there are 49 states that have to return papers before they can publish it, and now you have the site where you can read it.
I have had the site since inception hence my wondering where you had seen the official legal language, been hoping to get in there since most houses are no longer worth what they were when purchased. Suck it up, you pretended to know more than you did.
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I have had the site since inception hence my wondering where you had seen the official legal language, been hoping to get in there since most houses are no longer worth what they were when purchased. Suck it up, you pretended to know more than you did.
No, suck it up that you misunderstood what I said, falsely thinking I was making a claim I didn't. I never said I'd seen the official language. You mistakenly thought that's what I was intending. Nope. Just saying that's not the official language, which is why I then referenced Walker and his AG, as showing that even Walker and the AG think it will be out of the settlement agreement.

I thought I had seen one state's list of requirements for claimants somewhere, but I can't see how that can be yet.
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Has the actual settlement even been released yet? I am not finding it anywhere. Plenty of summaries though. If you have a copy of the doc and any applications etc, I would like to see them and what the legal wording looks like.
http://www.nationalmortgagesettlement.com/ is where the entire court case PDF will be put, here's the current executive PDF http://www.atg.wa.gov/uploadedFiles/...ve_Summary.pdf
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