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Old 10-31-2006, 06:16 PM
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Yeah, but...

You want to single Circular Quay and he is attempting to do something he has never done- win around two turns. How can you call a horse attempting to win around two turns for the first time a "lock"?
You might want to read a bit more carefully. I did not call him a "lock." I said he was "as close to a lock as a horse can be in a BC race." That is different. There are too many good horses in these races for anyone to be a lock, but after watching all of his races multiple times....I believe he is a two-turn horse. It was not the two-turns that got him last time....it was the garbage surface he was running on. The fact that he is by Thunder Gulch also suggests (although obviously does not ensure) that stretching out should not be an issue.
In my opinion he is just a lot better than the rest of these. To me....that makes him a strong single.
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:24 PM
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You might want to read a bit more carefully. I did not call him a "lock." I said he was "as close to a lock as a horse can be in a BC race." That is different. There are too many good horses in these races for anyone to be a lock, but after watching all of his races multiple times....I believe he is a two-turn horse. It was not the two-turns that got him last time....it was the garbage surface he was running on. The fact that he is by Thunder Gulch also suggests (although obviously does not ensure) that stretching out should not be an issue.
In my opinion he is just a lot better than the rest of these. To me....that makes him a strong single.
Fair enough and perhaps you will be proven correct.

Personally, I think calling a horse thats never won around two turns "as close to a lock as a horse can be in a bc race" is not logical thinking. It would be nice to assume that the surface is what did him in at keeneland (i agree actually) but we arent sure of this. It could very well have been the extra turn that made him hang. Good luck on that single. I will play Circular Quay but not single him.

As for my own single, i will try hurricane run in the turf.
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:31 PM
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Fair enough and perhaps you will be proven correct.

Personally, I think calling a horse thats never won around two turns "as close to a lock as a horse can be in a bc race" is not logical thinking. It would be nice to assume that the surface is what did him in at keeneland (i agree actually) but we arent sure of this. It could very well have been the extra turn that made him hang. Good luck on that single. I will play Circular Quay but not single him.

As for my own single, i will try hurricane run in the turf.
Well I guess we basically agree on the horses and just disagree about how to bet them. I like Hurricane Run too.....but I would not single him. I just like Cacique too much in that race. I will have to play both of them in any pick-3s I play.
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Old 10-31-2006, 07:09 PM
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Well I guess we basically agree on the horses and just disagree about how to bet them. I like Hurricane Run too.....but I would not single him. I just like Cacique too much in that race. I will have to play both of them in any pick-3s I play.
As far as C.Q. goes,lets just hope he gets a post like he did in his other races at Churchill.You see,it could have been the surface.It could have been the distance(really the pace of 23'1 that he may not of been thrilled with.) You have to also consider that his rider has routinely blown rides on raters from the inside post positions.He repeats the same mistakes.He gets trapped down inside(and behind)horses,and has to wait for others to do what they may.It is his one major weakness.Same with Happy Ticket's expert ride on that rail.

ON THE RAIL AGAIN.......

JUST CAN'T GET OFF THIS DAMN RAIL AGAIN........

LOCKED IN, AND IT COULDN'T BE MY OWN DAMN FAULT....

CUZ I DON'T WANT TO BE ON THIS DAMN RAIL AGAIN.......
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Old 10-31-2006, 07:20 PM
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Lava Man has been in Kentucky for 3 weeks. Connections learned, one would think, from previous mistakes. Way overlooked horse come Saturday. Real runner, will bust out and Dini will have to catch and get lead. I doubt Innnn vvvaaaaa soooorrrrrrrr hits the board. Way I see it, it's Dini or Lava first, the loser of that match finishes 3rd or worse, used up on that loonnnnggggg stretch run to the wire. Sun King, who knows.
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