Keeneland - 12.3% increase in handle

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

I tell you what, maybe I'll claim a horse at TP this Winter, if it likes the Poly maybe I'll take it to the Blue Grass and make it a G1 Winner...

Do you really think Aire Siempre and Bel Aire Beauty are worthy G1 winners? They'll both be up the track come BC Day...

Polytrack is not like normal dirt. It's a different surface. Nobody is denying that. There will be turf horses that run poorly on normal dirt that will run well on polytrack.

In tennis, they play on 3 different surfaces. There is clay, grass, and cement. Some guys dominate on one surface but not another. Federer is not that great on clay. It is really the same in horseracing now that there are 3 surfaces. You will have horses that are great on one surface but not another. You had the same thing before but that was only with 2 surfaces. Having a 3rd surface just complicates things a bit more.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Polytrack is not like normal dirt. It's a different surface. Nobody is denying that. There will be turf horses that run poorly on normal dirt that will run well on polytrack.

In tennis, they play on 3 different surfaces. There is clay, grass, and cement. Some guys dominate on one surface but not another. Federer is not that great on clay. It is really the same in horseracing now that there are 3 surfaces. You will have horses that are great on one surface but not another. You had the same thing before but that was only with 2 surfaces. Having a 3rd surface just complicates things a bit more.

agree richi but also to add to your response to point g'z post...... there are alotta horses who have won g1's and other graded stakes but are not g1 worthy. LOL do you truly believe bellamy road beat a g1 calibur field in the wood, itd be hard pressed to say it was even g3 overall. of course some people are still under the dellusion hes a great horse*cough cough* coach

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

agree richi but also to add to your response to point g'z post...... there are alotta horses who have won g1's and other graded stakes but are not g1 worthy. LOL do you truly believe bellamy road beat a g1 calibur field in the wood, itd be hard pressed to say it was even g3 overall. of course some people are still under the dellusion hes a great horse*cough cough* coach

I would love to see BR run against Bernardini, I can't say who would win, but it would be great to watch...

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

I would love to see BR run against Bernardini, I can't say who would win, but it would be great to watch...

LMFAO are you serious?

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

LMFAO are you serious?

Yes, BR was very good, he certainly ran faster than Bernardini did on uncontested leads. Like it or not, BR was a very nice horse, but unfortunately like others we didn't get to see much of him...

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

LMFAO are you serious?

BR was an awesome horse. There's no telling what he would have accomplished if he didn't get hurt. They totally ruined him by running him in the Travers when he wasn't ready.

[Pointg5]

They may take back, in your opinion would you say that horses have a natural running style that they perform their best when they can produce that running style. I would say yes, but I would defer to someone who probably knows more than I do about that...If they are taking back you are taking them out of their natural...I say it's a training track, because alot of trainers are using it to train for the BC, but not running there like Frankel or O'Neil. KEE will be full this Spring with Derby horses training, but not running there...

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

They may take back, in your opinion would you say that horses have a natural running style that they perform their best when they can produce that running style. I would say yes, but I would defer to someone who probably knows more than I do about that...If they are taking back you are taking them out of their natural...I say it's a training track, because alot of trainers are using it to train for the BC, but not running there like Frankel or O'Neil. KEE will be full this Spring with Derby horses training, but not running there...

The guys who are using it to train are also running horses on it. O'Neil ran plenty of horses on it. He ran Great Hunter on it. Frankel ran horses at Keeneland. I'm not aware of any guys that like training their horses on it but don't like running on it.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

They may take back, in your opinion would you say that horses have a natural running style that they perform their best when they can produce that running style. I would say yes, but I would defer to someone who probably knows more than I do about that...If they are taking back you are taking them out of their natural...I say it's a training track, because alot of trainers are using it to train for the BC, but not running there like Frankel or O'Neil. KEE will be full this Spring with Derby horses training, but not running there...

At the Keeneland meet that just ended, they had the biggest fields that they've ever had. That means the track is being used for a lot more than training.

I think you are totally wrong about the upcoming Spring meet. Derby horses will be much more likely to run at Keeneland now than before. Guys want to keep their horse in one piece before the Derby. Guys will be thrilled to prep on that track. The Bluegrass Stakes will look more atractive than ever to trainers.